illegal policy???

[westelectric]

Anyone who calls out the day before or after a holiday, DOES NOT get paid for the holiday. It never fails, it always happens. Anybody have this or a similar policy?

[hardworkingstiff]

It's been SOP everywhere I've worked.

[iwire]

It's been SOP everywhere I've worked.

Same here and if I did run a company I would also make it SOP.

Unless there are contracts involved no one has a 'right' to a payed Holiday.

[mdshunk]

If a guy wants to turn his 3 day weekend into a 4 day weekend, then he can (try to) schedule that 4th day off like any other person would. Being "sick" before or after a holiday is alway suspicious. Hungover is not the same as sick either. :smile:

[electricmanscott]

Hungover is not the same as sick either.


But alchoholism is a disease. ;)

[480sparky]

Most places I've worked for, you would get paid for the holiday if you had requested the 4th day off as a vacation. Wording such as 'if you are scheduled to work...".

This means if you ask for the Friday after Thanksgiving off, and receive approval, you get paid for Thursday.

If you call in sick Friday morning, you won't get paid for Thursday.

Another policy was if a holiday fell on a Thursday or Tuesday, a Saturday work day was scheduled a week or two prior. Those wanting the 4-day weekend could work that Saturday, and put the hours down for Monday or Friday. I'm sure the gubbamint would frown on this practice, but we felt it fair.

[brian john]

I have never had this problem at this company*, but in the past I did with other firms and no pay was the standard. As of the last contract contractors no longer have this option, so if it became a habit. SO LONG SLACKER. But I am fortunate, my men are all responsible, house and kids sure make them want 40+ a week.

Nothing improves an apprentice's attendance like marriage or buying a house.



*I have an employee struggling at present but he has experience personal tragedy and I work with this.

At one construction company I worked at we received pay on Thursday, on Friday enough of the men did not show up that they changed payday to Friday afternoon.

[360Youth]

A company I worked for years ago had a "policy" of comp time. It started when I asked if I could set aside overtime for an extended vacation I had planned but did not have the vacation time to cover it. They approved it, but not to long after that instituted it as a voluntary policy for various reasons. Another employee apparently complained to a certain bureau and the policy came to an end and some reimbursement checks were issued. :rolleyes: I know what is fair and agreeable, but I am not sure what is right without written policies and contracts.

[SmithBuilt]

It is in my employee handbook each employee signs when offered the job.

I've never had a problem though. Perhaps because they know to get the vacation pay they must work.

[JohnJ0906]

It's been SOP everywhere I've worked.

Same here. I have always seen this as a written policy in the employee handbook.
I certainly have no problem with it.

[76nemo]

Banging in is one thing, a pre-approved scheduled day is another.

[JohnJ0906]

Banging in is one thing, a pre-approved scheduled day is another.

Actually, I schedule my vacation every year begining the day after Labor day. Never had a problem being paid for the holiday.

[fbhwt]

I'm working a job that requires me to work 4 10hr days, Monday through Thursday. Monday was a holiday, shouldn't I be payed for a 10hr day? I tried to find something on the wage and hour web site but was unable, thought someone here could help.

[mdshunk]

I'm working a job that requires me to work 4 10hr days, Monday through Thursday. Monday was a holiday, shouldn't I be payed for a 10hr day? I tried to find something on the wage and hour web site but was unable, thought someone here could help.
They don't have to pay you for the holiday at all if they don't want to. You have no "right" to any sort of holiday pay. If they only gave you 8, take it and like it. If you have a labor contract, read your contract.

[fbhwt]

That's what I thought, thanks

[480sparky]

I'm working a job that requires me to work 4 10hr days, Monday through Thursday. Monday was a holiday, shouldn't I be payed for a 10hr day? I tried to find something on the wage and hour web site but was unable, thought someone here could help.

Fourth of July this year falls on a Friday.

I think I'll change my schedule to no hours M-Th, and 40 hours on Friday that week.

Since it's the 4th, I should get 40 hours holiday pay.

[mdshunk]

That's what I thought, thanks
Having said that, for morale's sake, giving 10 instead of 8 when your normal schedule is 10 is the right thing to do.

[fbhwt]

I agree, morales? What's that?

[480sparky]

I agree, morales? What's that?

Morales.... he works with Manuel, Jesus and Julio. You know.... the sheetrockers! :grin:

Or do you mean this guy?

http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk61/tileman800/Baseball/morales001.jpg

[mdshunk]

mo·rale [muh-ral]–noun
emotional or mental condition with respect to cheerfulness, confidence, zeal, etc., esp. in the face of opposition, hardship, etc.: the morale of the troops.

[Origin: 1745–55; < F, n. use of fem. of moral moral]

[fbhwt]

Sorry, thought we were talking moral's, getting 10 would definetly boost my morale.

[Buck Parrish]

It's been SOP everywhere I've worked.


What's SOP ?
I know it's son of something but I don't know what the 'P' stands for.
I can't be the only one.

[mdshunk]

What's SOP ?
I know it's son of something but I don't know what the 'P' stands for.
I can't be the only one.
standard operating procedure

[Buck Parrish]

Thanks, I've got to get caught up with all the abbreviations.

[realolman]

Regularly scheduled day before and after holiday for me. Not a problem scheduling days off along with them, though.

Vacation pay is based on average hours worked...work 48 hours a week average... get 48 hours week vacation pay..

Last guy I worked for asked me why I came to work 4 days a week,,, because I couldn't make it on three.:smile: duh.

[bikeindy]

Regularly scheduled day before and after holiday for me. Not a problem scheduling days off along with them, though.

Vacation pay is based on average hours worked...work 48 hours a week average... get 48 hours week vacation pay..

Last guy I worked for asked me why I came to work 4 days a week,,, because I couldn't make it on three.:smile: duh.

show up four days in a week for me and thats your last week. unless of a holiday or vacation.

[gra electric]

show up four days in a week for me and thats your last week. unless of a holiday or vacation.

I don't know about that. I have been tossing around the idea of a 4 day work week due to gas prices. A lot of the GC's, and other trades are already doing it. Their employees like it, save gas, and a 3 day weekend?

I honestly believe this whole country should switch to that. That way any overtime could be done on friday, the men get 48hrs, and still get 2 days off.

Gerry

[realolman]

show up four days in a week for me and thats your last week. unless of a holiday or vacation.

It was supposed to be a joke.... sorry.:)

[bikeindy]

It was supposed to be a joke.... sorry.:)

I figured as much since i've seen you post here frequently. But I know guys with that mentality.

[bikeindy]

I don't know about that. I have been tossing around the idea of a 4 day work week due to gas prices. A lot of the GC's, and other trades are already doing it. Their employees like it, save gas, and a 3 day weekend?

I honestly believe this whole country should switch to that. That way any overtime could be done on friday, the men get 48hrs, and still get 2 days off.

Gerry

Well last week we did 4 10's and a 14. I put in 4 on Sat on top of that to get some small jobs out of the way and make this week a bit easier.

[gra electric]

Well last week we did 4 10's and a 14. I put in 4 on Sat on top of that to get some small jobs out of the way and make this week a bit easier.

Nothing wrong with that. Sounds like your business is really busy, and that is great!!! I am speaking in general, with a company that may not have to work that many hours. I think it would be cheaper for everyone involved to work 4 days, rather than 5. Right now, we are so busy, 14hrs a day isn't enough. But if it tails off to staight 40's, than i think a 4 day week will be beneficial.

Gerry

[DanZ]

They don't have to pay you for the holiday at all if they don't want to. You have no "right" to any sort of holiday pay. If they only gave you 8, take it and like it. If you have a labor contract, read your contract.
That doesn't mean you can't politely ask about it, tho. If it's a recent change over to 4 10 hour days, they may not have caught that in vacation time.:cool: