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electricalperson
05-31-2008, 04:10 PM
i recently had to install a 4 inch square deep box on the surface of a celing because the old box was an old work box that was hacked in with 4 BX cables and i had to add another wire to that box. the problem is the home owner does not like the way the box looks. i dont think there is enough room in the celing to mount a box thats able to support a fixture and hold all those conductors. anyone have any suguesstions on a decent looking box i could use?
mdshunk
05-31-2008, 04:20 PM
Wiremold V5748-2
Dennis Alwon
05-31-2008, 04:42 PM
i recently had to install a 4 inch square deep box on the surface of a celing because the old box was an old work box that was hacked in with 4 BX cables and i had to add another wire to that box. the problem is the home owner does not like the way the box looks. i dont think there is enough room in the celing to mount a box thats able to support a fixture and hold all those conductors. anyone have any suguesstions on a decent looking box i could use?
Use one of those retro fan box kits and use a deep octagon instead of the one provided.
http://ace.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/pACE3-4450067dt.jpg
electricalperson
05-31-2008, 04:53 PM
Use one of those retro fan box kits and use a deep octagon instead of the one provided.
http://ace.imageg.net/graphics/product_images/pACE3-4450067dt.jpg
i thought of using a fan kit like that but id have to see if it would work. the joists might be too far apart to use that
Dennis Alwon
05-31-2008, 04:57 PM
i thought of using a fan kit like that but id have to see if it would work. the joists might be too far apart to use that
I think they span 24".
electricalperson
05-31-2008, 05:05 PM
before the plan was to build a little wooden box to cover up my 4 inch square but i guess that plan was changed.
mdshunk
05-31-2008, 05:13 PM
There are blankup canopies with a marked cubic inch capacity. If used with that existing box, would that do the trick for you?
Edit.. I just noticed you have a fixture on it too. You must have put the 4-square near the fixture and just ran one whip over to the fixture box, huh?
electricalperson
05-31-2008, 05:16 PM
There are blankup canopies with a marked cubic inch capacity. If used with that existing box, would that do the trick for you?
Edit.. I just noticed you have a fixture on it too. You must have put the 4-square near the fixture and just ran one whip over to the fixture box, huh?
i was able to screw the box to the celing and use a plaster ring to mount the fixture too.
electricalperson
05-31-2008, 05:31 PM
if i could use a old work fan kit with a deep octogon i might beable to use a light block to go around the exposed octogon to make it look a little nicer. i should be able to get a flat plastic light block
electricalperson
05-31-2008, 05:34 PM
im pretty sure the roof is made out of ~1" thick boards. anyone see a problem screwing a box directly to those boards?
Dennis Alwon
05-31-2008, 05:37 PM
if i could use a old work fan kit with a deep octogon i might beable to use a light block to go around the exposed octogon to make it look a little nicer. i should be able to get a flat plastic light block
The octagon would not have to be exposed. Hold the bracket up higher.
Buck Parrish
05-31-2008, 05:38 PM
if i could use a old work fan kit with a deep octogon i might beable to use a light block to go around the exposed octogon to make it look a little nicer. i should be able to get a flat plastic light block
What about a medallion between the mud ring and the light canopy.
You would have a space in between the cieling and the medallion.
But it might pass.
electricalperson
05-31-2008, 05:51 PM
What about a medallion between the mud ring and the light canopy.
You would have a space in between the cieling and the medallion.
But it might pass.
the entire 4 inch square is on the surface
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