Floor warming stats [Archive] - Mike Holt's Forum

mdshunk

05-31-2008, 05:09 PM

Does anyone know if the NuHeat Harmony floor warming thermostat (http://www.nuheat.com/download.html?file=/docs/nuheat-manual-hmy110-hmy220-english.pdf) may be used with other brands of 120V floor warming systems? The manual doesn't really say, for sure.

http://www.nuheat.com/system/images/hmy110-hmy220.jpg

480sparky

05-31-2008, 05:13 PM

Your link doesn't work, and the photo doesn't show.

If all else fails, I'd say they are not rated for use with other systems.

mdshunk

05-31-2008, 05:16 PM

Sorry. Their site is super secure, for some reason. Dynamic links that expire. Anyhow, here's another link that won't expire: http://www.nuheat.com/products/accessories.html

Sierrasparky

05-31-2008, 05:18 PM

I would think so. The other modles like the NTG5110 are AUBE and are used by amy infloor heeating systems.

As long as the The temp probe is compatible it should be ok.

mdshunk

05-31-2008, 05:20 PM

As long as the The temp probe is compatible it should be ok.
Of all the floor warming systems I've installed, the temperature probe always came with the stat and not with the warming element part.

480sparky

05-31-2008, 05:21 PM

Of all the floor warming systems I've installed, the temperature probe always came with the stat and not with the warming element part.

That would be my concern. Kinda like using breakers in different panels.

Buck Parrish

05-31-2008, 05:23 PM

mdshunk

05-31-2008, 05:25 PM

That would be my concern. Kinda like using breakers in different panels.
Not sure I follow. If I use this NuHeat Harmony stat, it will come with a temperature probe; the right one. I guess maybe I'm overthinking this. The only thing I'm "mixing and matching" is the load on the 120V (or 240V) side of the stat. I think every floor warming system has shielded cable type elements, and that's what this stat needs, so there really shouldn't be any functional issues. I guess I just needed to make sure there's something I'm not considering or any other reason why it won't work or shouldn't be done.

mdshunk

05-31-2008, 05:26 PM

I like the progamable ones . Just seems safer to turn itself on and off. Rather then running continuously.
If it got left on. HO goes on vacation. Furnace is off.

I put electric towell warmers on timers.
I like this one in particular, and I'm pushing to use it, because it fits 2 Decora openings. I can gang it with the switches for a slick final appearance.

480sparky

05-31-2008, 05:33 PM

Not sure I follow. If I use this NuHeat Harmony stat, it will come with a temperature probe; the right one. I guess maybe I'm overthinking this. The only thing I'm "mixing and matching" is the load on the 120V (or 240V) side of the stat. I think every floor warming system has shielded cable type elements, and that's what this stat needs, so there really shouldn't be any functional issues. I guess I just needed to make sure there's something I'm not considering or any other reason why it won't work or shouldn't be done.

But isn't the business end of the temp probe a thermistor? What if the values of thermistors vary from maker to maker? Kind of like car parts... they do the same thing, but are built different.

mdshunk

05-31-2008, 05:35 PM

But isn't the business end of the temp probe a thermistor? What if the values of thermistors vary from maker to maker? Kind of like car parts... they do the same thing, but are built different.
Um, yeah, but why would that matter? The thermistor is going to come with the stat. It will be the right thermistor for that stat. It's not like I'm using a thermistor from one system with a stat from another system.

Sierrasparky

05-31-2008, 05:40 PM

As long as you use the sensor then which comes with the stat you'll be ok.
As to using on an already done floor I'd call Nuheat if I were you.
Let us know, I like the way it installs also.
:smile:

480sparky

05-31-2008, 05:40 PM

Um, yeah, but why would that matter? The thermistor is going to come with the stat. It will be the right thermistor for that stat. It's not like I'm using a thermistor from one system with a stat from another system.

I assumed you were trying to replace an existing 'stat in a current heating system.

If you can get the sensor that comes with the stat into the floor, then all should be fine and dandy.:smile:

mdshunk

05-31-2008, 05:41 PM

I guessed you were trying to replace an existing 'stat in a current heating system.

If you can get the sensor that comes with the stat into the floor, then all should be fine and dandy.:smile:
Oh, I see. Gotcha.

Yeah, I'm fond of a certain cable heating system. I don't like their stat, however. I don't like NuHeat's cable system, and their mats are pricey. I do like their stat most, though.

Sierrasparky

05-31-2008, 05:45 PM

Which on of the cable systems are you using?

I hope not the single conductor version.

480sparky

05-31-2008, 05:45 PM

Oh, I see. Gotcha.

Yeah, I'm fond of a certain cable heating system. I don't like their stat, however. I don't like NuHeat's cable system, and their mats are pricey. I do like their stat most, though.

I would think the stat would give a rats' behind who makes the cable, as long as it heats. The wattage of some custom-fit cables may vary, and could concievably exceed the stats' rating.

480sparky

05-31-2008, 05:45 PM

mdshunk

05-31-2008, 05:48 PM

Which on of the cable systems are you using?

I hope not the single conductor version.
I like Warm Tiles.

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n277/mdshunk/warmfloor.jpg

Sierrasparky

05-31-2008, 05:53 PM

mdshunk

05-31-2008, 05:59 PM

Thats good,
Have you seen that cable that is a single conductor.
The one where you cannot cut it to legnth.
well I saw a guy that ran the hot leads up the wall..... opps How come that wall is so hot.........
also
You ever check the EMF withone of those jobs . WOW :-?
Actually, that's what I'm talking about. Single long conductor. I've been using it for years. I guess I'm used to it. I put in a lot of Chromalox in ceilings as a teen also. Same thing, just upside down. :grin:

cadpoint

05-31-2008, 06:01 PM

Sorry. Their site is super secure, for some reason. Dynamic links that expire. Anyhow, here's another link that won't expire:
It's the new technology of web surfing, I'm not sure exactly what's it's called.

The directory access can be controlled by may fascists of web page and hosting practices, I beleive MH has Active Pages to the Day that if you ask a question that just happens to be posted, Today, will be a different results then if you seek an answer, that don't happen to be today ...

The search engines pick up the post to a title / subject the page (linked to MH Forum) if you've ever chased a Forum link from Google it might or might not show, if your active "Today" and logged in it might show, if not you'll get the front page to the forum (re-direction) by host server, which ends up being the forum main page,(not signed in) where one can presue the title / subject / thread.

Now with manufactures, they just want to know who is so involved in thier products and services, and re-direct and sudo protect their stuff, only to gain the user's e-mail... :þ

Sierrasparky

05-31-2008, 06:13 PM

Actually, that's what I'm talking about. Single long conductor. I've been using it for years. I guess I'm used to it. I put in a lot of Chromalox in ceilings as a teen also. Same thing, just upside down. :grin:

Well I'd consider changing to the parallel cable version. I my opinion it's a bit safer..
There's been a lot of talk about EMF and I have been involved with a company called NET CURRENTS in Orange county. The guy who stated it worked for So CAL Edison. Since he was not a EC he was not allowed to fix the problems just find them. He'd call the company I worked for a the time. Every instance where he found high values of Net currents and EMF the customer was complaining of feling ill in certain part of the building where the wiring had been giving off exessive EMF.

We found a Architect complaining about symptoms and his monitor flickered in the lower corner (CRT). It happend only when the Domino's Pizza opend each day. Well what we found was a Prep table that had the Ground and Nuetral were reversed. All the nuetral current ( about 13 amp) flowed on the ground of the building. The pat was under the ARch desk. We fixed it and it went away.

Nex time you finish an install check it with a Guass meter at floor level where kids and pets hang out. I'd consider changing cables.
:mad: :mad: