twist or not

[westelectric]

Noticed an electrician today making splices in a switch box. Never twisted any wires together, just shoved them under a wirenut and twisted the wirenut. I always twist before putting them under the wirenut. How many of you dont twist. Solid or stranded.

[jayrad1122]

For solid wire when there is only a 2 or 3 I just screw the wirenut on then twist the wires. If they are more or when they give me a hard time I twist before.

Stranded wire, I twist after the wire nut is on, no pretwisting.

-Jared

[marissa2]

How many pages will this get too this time.
Lou

[bradleyelectric]

definately twist. The splice should hold without a wirenut. Then add the nut

[480sparky]

definately twist. The splice should hold without a wirenut. Then add the nut

Me 2. The wire nut is only there for insulation, IMPO.

[mdshunk]

Stop. !

[steved]

Let's do the twist! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRDGBpEqLfs&feature=related)

[wirebender]

Stop. !

spoilsport

[sparkyjim]

Attended an IAEI seminar years back. The featured speaker was a former electrician turned inspector, turned instructor, orator, whatever. He spent 30 minutes on why you should never pre-twist solid wire connections.
When we were leaving for lunch the company master took all of the journeymen to the side to remind us that anyone caught not pretwisting would be "fired so fast the timeclock will spin backwards". I still pretwist and laugh everytime I run across someone that doesn't.

[wawireguy]

I don't twist. Don't plan on starting either.

[mdshunk]

I don't twist. Don't plan on starting either.
Blasphemy!

[Rockyd]

110.3.B Manufacturer's instructions. I normally don't twist, unless it's a mix of various size stranded wires. If people use things like wago's and those little crimp splices, held together by a wimpy piece of plastic, then something with substance (a wirenut) should be more than suffient, twisted or not. Am a big fan of things that do have heavy current draw of Polaris's (diffferent subject).

[Strahan]

Why twist twice when you can accomplish the same thing by twisting once!! Don't really see the point in twisting first, but of course make sure you have a good secure connection when you are done.

[zappy]

but for those of you that do,do you twist clockwise or counter clockwise hmmm?

[Rockyd]

CW of course! Not talking Country ands western either! Only time any wire I know of gets twisted CCW is with stranded wire. You can twist it CCW to put it under a screw (like on the side of a receptacle) and it will remain bound tightly (but only done it when in a real pinch).

[Minuteman]

Do what ever works for you, but I pre-twist. Dad taught me to, and I never have to go back and find the loose wire that didn't make a connection.

[Mule]

Well, If I'm forced to admit it......I'm a twister too
A "tight yeller" just makes you "feel good all over more than any place else" :wink:

[ivsenroute]

I hear that in Australia, they twist counter-clockwise but pre-twist clockwise:grin:

[celtic]

How about we avoid confusing anyone and simply use a wago?

http://www.civitronic.ro/WAGO_222.jpg/WAGO_222-full.jpg

[Mule]

How about we avoid confusing anyone and simply use a wago?

http://www.civitronic.ro/WAGO_222.jpg/WAGO_222-full.jpg

That would be a sin

[LarryFine]

I don't have a steadfast rule one way or the other. And in my opinion, wire nuts are not merely screw-on insulation.

[celtic]

That would be a sin

We can talk about backstabbing devices if you really want to see sacrilege :grin:

[Mule]

That's funny.......well to me, the more surface area that I can get in a connection, without distorting the conductors, the cooler and better connection I have under full load.

[e57]

How about we avoid confusing anyone and simply use a wago?

http://www.civitronic.ro/WAGO_222.jpg/WAGO_222-full.jpgI cant find a local stock.... But I twist - so everyone else twists - at least on my jobs....

[220/221]

I like to twist, solder, rubber tape, varnish, vinyl tape and then wirenut...... then tape the wirenut.

[masterinbama]

Do you twist 500's together before you put the splitbolt on?

[iwire]

Read and follow the manufacturers directions, all of them require twisting of some sort. (either before or after)

[iwire]

Stop. !

It is stopped. :smile:

The subject has been discussed ad nauseam many times before, feel free to do a search and find past discussions, no new info will be presented here.