View Full Version : How big does it have to be?
Fulthrotl
12-03-2008, 09:26 PM
for a wall mount flat screen, what size conduit do y'all
run so you can get the HDMI cable into the box?
i was instructed to put in 1/2", as a coax feed was all
they were gonna do.
now, they want HDMI. crap. the taping mud isn't even
dry on the walls, and i have three of them to change
tomorrow.
and nobody has a sample of the cable they will be using.
so, what size of smurf tube do i need? 1 1/4" or 1 1/2"
to get the hdmi head thru the pipe?
the boxes i used are 4SD, so that's not a problem, but
the walls are 2 1/2" steel studs, and there is backing in
the walls for the tv mount.
so, what now?
randy
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ctmike
12-03-2008, 09:32 PM
how far do they have to run if the jus drop down the wall i wouldnt bother with the tube just a line down to the lv ow box
electricmanscott
12-03-2008, 09:33 PM
I'd go as big as possible. As you know, they always change their minds.
Fulthrotl
12-03-2008, 09:35 PM
how far do they have to run if the jus drop down the wall i wouldnt bother with the tube just a line down to the lv ow box
up, over, and down the wall... walls have 6" batts in 3 1'2" walls.
snoodling isn't much fun.
11' ceilings. 35' cable. :-(
ctmike
12-03-2008, 09:42 PM
no basement ? if i remember i think they are about 1 inch wide just under a 1/2 high
nakulak
12-03-2008, 09:45 PM
last time I did that we had to use 2 1/2" pipe for the stuff to fit thru (? !)
480sparky
12-03-2008, 09:46 PM
There are three HDMI connector types with Type A and Type B defined since the HDMI 1.0 specification and Type C defined since the HDMI 1.3 specification.
The Type A connector has 19 pins with bandwidth to support all SDTV, EDTV, and HDTV modes. The plug's outside dimensions are 13.9 mm wide by 4.45 mm high. Type A is electrically compatible with single link DVI-D.
The Type B connector has 29 pins (21.2 mm by 4.45 mm) and can carry double the video bandwidth of Type A for use with very high-resolution future displays such as WQUXGA (3840x2400). Type B is electrically compatible with dual link DVI-D and is not used in any CE products.
The Type C mini-connector is intended for portable devices. It is smaller than the Type A connector (10.42 mm by 2.42 mm) but has the same 19 pin configuration. It can be connected to a Type A connector using a Type A-to-Type C connector cable.
electricalperson
12-03-2008, 09:51 PM
this guy were doing work for decided to run his own pipe for the hdmi cable. he ran a 2 inch white pvc with about 8 elbows in it. they were the white pvc elbows and not regular electricial elbows. he couldnt even get a snake in then he asked me to give it a shot. im going to blow a string in it when i get back
Fulthrotl
12-03-2008, 09:55 PM
There are three HDMI connector types with Type A and Type B defined since the HDMI 1.0 specification and Type C defined since the HDMI 1.3 specification.
The Type A connector has 19 pins with bandwidth to support all SDTV, EDTV, and HDTV modes. The plug's outside dimensions are 13.9 mm wide by 4.45 mm high. Type A is electrically compatible with single link DVI-D.
The Type B connector has 29 pins (21.2 mm by 4.45 mm) and can carry double the video bandwidth of Type A for use with very high-resolution future displays such as WQUXGA (3840x2400). Type B is electrically compatible with dual link DVI-D and is not used in any CE products.
The Type C mini-connector is intended for portable devices. It is smaller than the Type A connector (10.42 mm by 2.42 mm) but has the same 19 pin configuration. It can be connected to a Type A connector using a Type A-to-Type C connector cable.
you are my hero.
:D
thanks....
bikeindy
12-03-2008, 10:55 PM
I'd go as big as possible. As you know, they always change their minds.
This is what I would do.
aline
12-03-2008, 10:56 PM
You might be able to install a rapid run cable in the 1/2 in. conduit.
http://www.rapidrun.com/
bradleyelectric
12-03-2008, 11:29 PM
You might be able to install a rapid run cable in the 1/2 in. conduit.
http://www.rapidrun.com/
Print shop I do work for put these in their conference room.
alfiesauce
12-03-2008, 11:38 PM
I usually run a 2 1/2" smurf tube between the TV location and the components. Strap it down really good.
Fulthrotl
12-03-2008, 11:55 PM
You might be able to install a rapid run cable in the 1/2 in. conduit.
http://www.rapidrun.com/
it says 3/4" is the minimum..... but this stuff looks pretty cool...
information to be filed away for future reference....
thanks...
randy
Fulthrotl
12-04-2008, 12:28 AM
it says 3/4" is the minimum..... but this stuff looks pretty cool...
information to be filed away for future reference....
thanks...
randy
i priced this stuff.... ow.
two decora HDMI plates, and a 35' cable is $422.97
ka ching.
lucky1974
12-04-2008, 12:44 AM
Hi, Those prices seem very high to me. I use www.ramelectronics.net
Decora hdmi plate with coupler $13.95 Part # 28-171-1
40' HDMI 1.3b cl3 rated cable $109.95
Those are the plates i use. quality is pretty good.Never used a cable that long, used a 30' from there worked great.
Sometimes i will use www.tselectronic.com prices seem a little higher though
Greg Swartz
12-04-2008, 01:45 AM
no basement ? if i remember i think they are about 1 inch wide just under a 1/2 high
That's what I remember. I would say 1 1/2" to be safe.
Generally, I would not even run conduit for it. But your situation is a bit different.
You might be able to install a rapid run cable in the 1/2 in. conduit.
http://www.rapidrun.com/
That is one slick product.
quogueelectric
12-04-2008, 01:53 AM
for a wall mount flat screen, what size conduit do y'all
run so you can get the HDMI cable into the box?
i was instructed to put in 1/2", as a coax feed was all
they were gonna do.
now, they want HDMI. crap. the taping mud isn't even
dry on the walls, and i have three of them to change
tomorrow.
and nobody has a sample of the cable they will be using.
so, what size of smurf tube do i need? 1 1/4" or 1 1/2"
to get the hdmi head thru the pipe?
the boxes i used are 4SD, so that's not a problem, but
the walls are 2 1/2" steel studs, and there is backing in
the walls for the tv mount.
so, what now?
randy
http://i470.photobucket.com/albums/rr66/FulThrotl/IMG_0145.jpg
1 1/4 is plenty big for hdmi If it is an extra go as big as they will pay for as future needs for more cables.
Pullnwire
12-04-2008, 02:16 AM
for a wall mount flat screen, what size conduit do y'all
run so you can get the HDMI cable into the box?
i was instructed to put in 1/2", as a coax feed was all
they were gonna do.
now, they want HDMI. crap. the taping mud isn't even
dry on the walls, and i have three of them to change
tomorrow.
and nobody has a sample of the cable they will be using.
so, what size of smurf tube do i need? 1 1/4" or 1 1/2"
to get the hdmi head thru the pipe?
the boxes i used are 4SD, so that's not a problem, but
the walls are 2 1/2" steel studs, and there is backing in
the walls for the tv mount.
so, what now?
randy
Randy,
There is a company in Tustin that sells converters that run HDMI over cat 6 I think it needs two cables per unit. there is a sender and receiver. Hall research technologies. But, I have fit 1 HDMI through 1" straight down with no problems.
Brett
Pullnwire
12-04-2008, 02:17 AM
You might be able to install a rapid run cable in the 1/2 in. conduit.
http://www.rapidrun.com/
They call for min. 3/4 emt
aline
12-04-2008, 10:18 AM
They call for min. 3/4 emt
I know what they call for. That's why I said you might be able to get it to fit.
I've never tried it.
I never run anything smaller than 3/4 in. conduit for data, phone & A/V.
For conduit from the projector or tv I usually run 2in.
Mike Lang
12-04-2008, 10:24 AM
I know they make an HDMI end that can terminate to either 3 or 4 cat 5 cables.
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