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ike5547
12-04-2008, 07:55 PM
Anybody know of anything that can be done for this 450 dollar ladder?


http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b35/michael_schenker/1204081505.jpg

peter d
12-04-2008, 07:56 PM
What's more expensive?

A new ladder?

The cost of an injury?

Seems like the choice is obvious. That ladder should get a sawzall treatment faster than you can read this sentence. :)

stickboy1375
12-04-2008, 07:57 PM
Throw it away, but you better cut it up so someone does not use it anyhow and you still get sued.

ike5547
12-04-2008, 07:58 PM
What's more expensive?

A new ladder?

The cost of an injury?

Seems like the choice is obvious.



That was not an answer to my question, but I see your point.

ctmike
12-04-2008, 07:59 PM
Cut it up and throw it away. years a ago the local phone co trashed a bunch of ladders. they were taken out of dumpsters . Someone fell of the unsafe ladder and sued the phone co

Cow
12-04-2008, 08:00 PM
I agree with Peter.

What's more expensive: a ladder or an ER visit? The choice is simple to me.:wink:

Dennis Alwon
12-04-2008, 08:00 PM
Anybody know of anything that can be done for this 450 dollar ladder?


Duct Tape :smile:

ike5547
12-04-2008, 08:01 PM
Duct Tape :smile:

You did address the question, at least.:grin:

stickboy1375
12-04-2008, 08:03 PM
You did address the question, at least.:grin:

Not to be rude, but if you really need to ask what has to be done with that ladder than, let the jokes fly. :D

peter d
12-04-2008, 08:03 PM
Anybody know of anything that can be done for this 450 dollar ladder?

You'll notice that I completely dodged your question about repairing this ladder. What happens if you make a repair to it, and the repair fails? Ooopss...now we're back to the cost of an injury.

I've climbed my fair share of ladders that have been "field repaired." It was a bad idea every time. :roll:

Dennis Alwon
12-04-2008, 08:05 PM
I actually fixed a fiberglass ladder with a piece of oressure treated wood. I cut the piece into the "U" slot of the ladder and then screwed the fiberglass to the wood. It worked well but I am sure OSHA would have a fied day with it.

bjp_ne_elec
12-04-2008, 08:07 PM
Anybody know of anything that can be done for this 450 dollar ladder?


http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b35/michael_schenker/1204081505.jpg

That thing looks like it has a serious "sun burn". I see you're in CA - I think I'd look in to something to keep any ladders you potentially have baking in the sun, covered.

For that ladder, I find it a little concerning you even asked the question - take the bandsaw to it ASAP. It appears it should have been thrown out about a year ago.

ike5547
12-04-2008, 08:12 PM
Somebody rammed it with another vehicle and conveniently disappeared.

hillbilly1
12-04-2008, 08:12 PM
I just got done wiring the corporate headquarters of a large general contractor, The President of the company came out and was checking out his new building, climbed a extension ladder that they owned, up to a mezzanine, the ladder slide out (rubber gone off the feet) landing on his back, Dislocated his shoulder and broke six ribs. Luckily he did not hit his head on the concrete floor. Major labor cost there!

stickboy1375
12-04-2008, 08:13 PM
Somebody rammed it with another vehicle and conveniently disappeared.


Insurance claim?

JohnME
12-04-2008, 08:14 PM
I think he has a legit question personally, is there an approved method of repair?

I was given what looked like a brand new 8' ladder a few years back, they said it was damaged, but we looked it all over and found nothing wrong, the guy I was working for said to take it anyway (great guy to work for). Anyways, I was working around the house one day with it and the leg split right up the side without any warning, I guess whoever said it was damaged in the first place was right.

Dennis Alwon
12-04-2008, 08:15 PM
Somebody rammed it with another vehicle and conveniently disappeared.


I was going to ask what did you back into. I had a helper that did that to my 12' step ladder--- Back then it was $200-- had to get a new one.

BTW, the one I repaired was only for a day til I got to buy one. I still have it here at the house. I use it to pick figs from the tree in the summer. :smile:

ike5547
12-04-2008, 08:18 PM
Insurance claim?

I've got full coverage on the vehicle but I don't think that would extend to any tools.

I expected I would end up throwing it away.

satcom
12-04-2008, 08:20 PM
That thing looks like it has a serious "sun burn". I see you're in CA - I think I'd look in to something to keep any ladders you potentially have baking in the sun, covered.

For that ladder, I find it a little concerning you even asked the question - take the bandsaw to it ASAP. It appears it should have been thrown out about a year ago.

Cut up, and put in dumpster, ladders are an expense we expect to have every time the ladder runs out of date or has the slightest flaw, right in the scrap pile before someone gets a serious injury.

stickboy1375
12-04-2008, 08:20 PM
I've got full coverage on the vehicle but it don't think that would extend to any tools.

I expected I would end up throwing it away.

Too bad people dont owe up to mistakes...

Dennis Alwon
12-04-2008, 08:22 PM
Too bad people dont owe up to mistakes...

I didn't do it... really

peter d
12-04-2008, 08:23 PM
Too bad people dont owe up to mistakes...

We do live in the U.S.A. after all. Entitlement is a constitutional right. ;)

masterinbama
12-04-2008, 08:26 PM
Cut it up but save those AL rungs they bring scrap money too. Getting off subject a little but do you guys have a scrap man that visits your business and buys your scrap? We have a good one in this area ,he gives what the local yards do and we don't have to load it.

peter d
12-04-2008, 08:28 PM
Getting off subject a little but do you guys have a scrap man that visits your business and buys your scrap? We have a good one in this area ,he gives what the local yards do and we don't have to load it.

Yes, we have them here. I affectionately refer to them as "thieves."

Okie Sparky
12-04-2008, 08:28 PM
I've been told that you can send a damaged ladder back to the manufacturer and get it repaired and it will be OSHA approved. However I have not pursued this as I figured it would be just as expensive to ship the ladder both ways plus the repair bill would probably be more than a new ladder.

nolabama
12-04-2008, 08:37 PM
pop rivet some metal channel inside it and cover it with some fiberglass you get at the body shop and wait for the grand jury to ask where you got your ladder repair license from:D

bjp_ne_elec
12-04-2008, 08:37 PM
Somebody rammed it with another vehicle and conveniently disappeared.

One option, as mentioned in later reply, see if manufacturer can repair. Is this a Werner?

Another option is to see if someone has the bad half for sale. Is there any sign that the damage translated in to the other section?

dezwitinc
12-04-2008, 08:39 PM
Check around and see if there is a local ladder manufacturer around you somewhere.
We used to get ladders repaired in the Boston area often.
There was a manufacturer that repaired and certified them at very low cost.

220/221
12-04-2008, 08:45 PM
I would not throw it away, I'd repair it.

I think all yoy have to do is make it a little shorter.

Remove the feet by drilling the rivets, cut it cleanly and reattach the feet.

That's $450 an hour.

JJWalecka
12-04-2008, 08:46 PM
Disguard it and cut it up. Too much liability. Having a ladder on the rack is convenient but the sun can be brutal.

Is there a product to cover the ladder on the rack to prevent deterioration? Perhaps a tarp tied down properly.

JJ

JJWalecka
12-04-2008, 08:47 PM
Check around and see if there is a local ladder manufacturer around you somewhere.
We used to get ladders repaired in the Boston area often.
There was a manufacturer that repaired and certified them at very low cost.


Nice idea key word is certified

JJ

William1978
12-04-2008, 08:50 PM
Dumpster!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:d

masterinbama
12-04-2008, 08:51 PM
Yes, we have them here. I affectionately refer to them as "thieves."
We have those here too but this guy actually writes me a real check, not the bouncy kind.

nolabama
12-04-2008, 08:56 PM
masterinbama we have those guys here they pay a little less than going rate - seems like a good deal - last time i saw one at the scrap yard he was in a brand new cummins 3500 dodge with a 25 yard texas dump gooseneck loaded to the gills with romex - must be doing well

peter
12-04-2008, 11:25 PM
Seeing as how only the bottom of one section seems to be damaged, you could at least keep the other section.
And you could just cut off the bottom 1 foot of the damaged part, replace the feet and the whole thing should be as good as new -- except one foot shorter but also a little bit lighter and easier to carry. Use epoxy.
~Peter
I can build anything you want if you draw a picture of it on the back of a big enough check.

weressl
12-05-2008, 12:58 PM
Anybody know of anything that can be done for this 450 dollar ladder?


http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b35/michael_schenker/1204081505.jpg

Fiberglass repair kits are available at boating supply shops. Repair of a listed equipment is another question from the liability standpoint.

Cant it be doe?

Absolutely.

Should it be done?

I would let the original manufacturer address the issue. It seems to me a manufacturing defect, even if it is occured after the warranty period so they should make good. It may even be cause for a recall!

jrannis
12-05-2008, 02:18 PM
Cut it up and Deep Six it before you can think about it

480sparky
12-05-2008, 02:36 PM
Use two batteries worth of cordless sawzall time on it. Make 100% sure someone isn't going to pull it out of the dumpster and use it.

I typically cut every rung all the way through.

zog
12-05-2008, 02:44 PM
Anybody know of anything that can be done for this 450 dollar ladder?


http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b35/michael_schenker/1204081505.jpg

Looks like you got your $450 worth of use out of it, time for retirement (The ladder, not you)

quogueelectric
12-05-2008, 02:57 PM
If I were to attempt this this is the system that I would use to fix it I have used this system before and it works great. and it was introduced to me by a friend of mine who installs bow thrusters on million dollar yachts. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6N7YMr6E564 I am trying to figure out how to treat fish sticks that have been overbent or knicked so I dont get fiberglass splinters in my fingers anymore. BTW I will fix the ladder for only 449$

tkb
12-05-2008, 03:14 PM
Anybody know of anything that can be done for this 450 dollar ladder?


http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b35/michael_schenker/1204081505.jpg

I would instal levelers on the ladder.
You have to cut off the original feet, but it is approved by Werner.
http://www.grainger.com/Grainger/items/4XP35

I have had this setup on one of my ladders and it works very well.

GUNNING
12-05-2008, 04:49 PM
That would make it a $540 ladder. The accountant would love it! Something else to depreciate.

I would trash it. I like new tools and don't like insurance co, attorneys, and concussions
Any fall over 10 feet you have a 50 50 chance of being fatal (Liberty Mutual).
Van insurance cover it? Wife/partner like you enough to buy you one for xmas?