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c_picard
12-05-2008, 05:46 PM
Sooo....
Any of you old timers, err, I mean ' experienced' tradesmen, have any ideas on how to bend 2" EMT in a pinch without an actual bender? I know, I know, I am risking banishment for asking, but it's really in the interest of history, I feel the old ways can teach a valuable lesson on why we now use benders designed for the purpose. Really.

Thanks,
You may now commence my verbal beating
Charlie

celtic
12-05-2008, 05:48 PM
Truck/van bumpers have worked well in the past.....don't try it with a car nowadays though :D

JJWalecka
12-05-2008, 05:50 PM
Try a lull tire or something that will have some give. You will need to put many small bends. Be careful not to change the interior diameter. The end of the pipe might become damaged and will need to be cut off. Good luck.

JJ

chris kennedy
12-05-2008, 05:51 PM
Sooo....
Any of you old timers, err, I mean ' experienced' tradesmen, have any ideas on how to bend 2" EMT in a pinch without an actual bender? I know, I know, I am risking banishment for asking, but it's really in the interest of history, I feel the old ways can teach a valuable lesson on why we now use benders designed for the purpose. Really.

Thanks,
You may now commence my verbal beating
Charlie


It can be done in between the dually tires on a 18 wheeler trailer. It takes great care and usually isn't pretty.

jmsbrush
12-05-2008, 05:52 PM
I know this will sound like bs, but when I was a 4th year, My jw was an ox.
He could take a piece that was already bent and bend it some more or take some out by hand. By using his weight and standing on it.

nolabama
12-05-2008, 06:00 PM
use the forks of a tree and be gentle

cal1947
12-05-2008, 06:06 PM
Sooo....
Any of you old timers, err, I mean ' experienced' tradesmen, have any ideas on how to bend 2" EMT in a pinch without an actual bender? I know, I know, I am risking banishment for asking, but it's really in the interest of history, I feel the old ways can teach a valuable lesson on why we now use benders designed for the purpose. Really.

Thanks,
You may now commence my verbal beating
Charlie

trees, always worked in a pinch

hardworkingstiff
12-05-2008, 06:06 PM
use the forks of a tree and be gentle

That's the way I've seen it done (quite a long time ago).

BryanMD
12-05-2008, 06:06 PM
Try a lull tire or something that will have some give...

If the job is using 2" there probably is a Lull around ;)

I've never done more than a bit of offset like this and can imagine how mangled a full 90 would look. ha!

hardworkingstiff
12-05-2008, 06:07 PM
If the job is using 2" there probably is a Lull around ;)

I've never done more than a bit of offset like this and can imagine how mangled a full 90 would look. ha!


I don't think you could make an acceptable 90 w/out a bender.

nolabama
12-05-2008, 06:28 PM
a little kick is all your gonna get out of these tips unless your the god of pipebending :D

ItsHot
12-05-2008, 06:54 PM
I have had good luck bending 2 emt around the neck of some inspectors and engineers!:D

ultramegabob
12-05-2008, 06:54 PM
I have done it in between tires on a bobcat.

Rockyd
12-05-2008, 07:08 PM
2" EMT without a bender?You are looking fro trouble! Early day Hickeys were made by shaving off the side of a Plumber's Tee, shave enough so that the pipe can be moved in and out. Don't know if it will work with 2" EMT. If it was it was GRC, you could use a back hoe, or 966 bucket and chain around a tooth, nice and slow on the curl...

EMT is an ugly one, especially 2"...

ctmike
12-05-2008, 07:16 PM
just to put a small kick or offset I have seen it done by laying in the street and curb and runnig over with the trucks rear wheels

220/221
12-05-2008, 08:21 PM
Am I the only one who wants to know why?

hardworkingstiff
12-05-2008, 08:32 PM
just to put a small kick or offset I have seen it done by laying in the street and curb and runnig over with the trucks rear wheels

That didn't flaten the conduit somewhat?

JJWalecka
12-05-2008, 08:36 PM
am i the only one who wants to know why?

lol :)

jj

ctmike
12-05-2008, 08:36 PM
That didn't flaten the conduit somewhat?

nope kept the edge about 1 foot from the curb.no worse than a tree it was not perfect but in the basement who could see

bjp_ne_elec
12-05-2008, 08:39 PM
Sooo....
Any of you old timers, err, I mean ' experienced' tradesmen, have any ideas on how to bend 2" EMT in a pinch without an actual bender? I know, I know, I am risking banishment for asking, but it's really in the interest of history, I feel the old ways can teach a valuable lesson on why we now use benders designed for the purpose. Really.

Thanks,
You may now commence my verbal beating
Charlie
Can buy factory 90s and 45s - would only use other methods mentioned in past posts for a kick or a small degree offset. Get friendly with one of the larger contractors around and either utilize his bender or pay to have some bends done up.

hardworkingstiff
12-05-2008, 08:43 PM
nope kept the edge about 1 foot from the curb.no worse than a tree it was not perfect but in the basement who could see

Thanks Mike, I'll log that into my memory.

Former Jeanyus
12-05-2008, 09:16 PM
I've personally used a garage wall with a nearby utility pole, Chicago alleys were always good that way. With aluminum it was MUCH easier than rigid hwg... one time when I was without my brother, I used the truck to help give the extra muscle by putting it in gear and very gently nudging the conduit which I had tied off into the ) of the bumper. That bend did turn out a little bumpy :(

Fulthrotl
12-05-2008, 09:40 PM
Sooo....
Any of you old timers, err, I mean ' experienced' tradesmen, have any ideas on how to bend 2" EMT in a pinch without an actual bender? I know, I know, I am risking banishment for asking, but it's really in the interest of history, I feel the old ways can teach a valuable lesson on why we now use benders designed for the purpose. Really.

Thanks,
You may now commence my verbal beating
Charlie

there isn't much you can do to that pipe that won't look like it was ran
over by a truck.

don't tell nobody..... and it isn't legal... (below minimum radius)
but in an "EMERGENCY".... there is always the muffler shop.
you can get away with a kick or offset, but if you bend a full
90.... you probably aren't gonna like having to get anything
thru it other than the pull rope.

i've never been that desperate, but i heard it from a friend who,
heard it from a friend who, heard it from another... that it'll work.

now, if you need to bend tubing, and don't want it flattening out,
pack sand into the tube before you bend it... it has to be filled well,
and plugs stuck in the ends to keep it tamped, and wet sand does
work better than dry sand, but you can bend emt in a blackhawk
bender, and make amazingly tight bends..... and the tube won't flatten....

so, when you get the pipe between a rock and a hard place, and
have two oxen yoked to it, to make a segment bend, pack your
pipe first, vern....

and after it's finished, and a thing of glory, have fun getting all that
wet sand out of the pipe.... :D

randy

ceb58
12-05-2008, 09:58 PM
You bunch of sisseys. In my younger, drunker days I would put it on top of my head and bend 90's all day. What were we talking bout? Where am I? Who am I?:D

But on another note I saw a device in the supply house for bending 1/2'' and 3/4" pvc that was neat. It was a tightly wound spring about 3' long. You slide the spring in side the pipe and bend 90's over your knee. Would not kink the pipe.

blueheels2
12-05-2008, 10:02 PM
I work with a guy now who can put a pretty good offset in 2" off of his truck tire. THe job we are own now has 3 of these type bends. My boss is 2 cheap to buy the right stuff.

ctmike
12-05-2008, 10:11 PM
You bunch of sisseys. In my younger, drunker days I would put it on top of my head and bend 90's all day. What were we talking bout? Where am I? Who am I?:D.
that explains a lot
BBut on another note I saw a device in the supply house for bending 1/2'' and 3/4" pvc that was neat. It was a tightly wound spring about 3' long. You slide the spring in side the pipe and bend 90's over your knee. Would not kink the pipe.

i have the tool you discibed not bad you have to over bend it a bit as it does like to spring back

480sparky
12-05-2008, 10:12 PM
Found this in my archives:

http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc172/480sparky/Old%20Stuff/bending.jpg

BryanMD
12-05-2008, 10:24 PM
Found this in my archives:

Bet that only works if you're wearing those spiffy clothes and hats. ;)

nolabama
12-05-2008, 10:54 PM
Bet that only works if you're wearing those spiffy clothes and hats. ;)

you dont dress like that everyday??:D

nolabama
12-05-2008, 10:55 PM
.... there is always the muffler shop.
you can get away with a kick or offset, .....
randy

wouldnt a mandrel bender at a muffler shop not kink it?

electricalperson
12-05-2008, 11:08 PM
Found this in my archives:

http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc172/480sparky/Old%20Stuff/bending.jpg

where was that from?

480sparky
12-05-2008, 11:14 PM
where was that from?

One of my old electrical books. Probably an Audels' Guide I have from 1937.

LarryFine
12-06-2008, 01:30 AM
I have bent them over a tire, too.

I know this will sound like bs, but when I was a 4th year, My jw was an ox.
He could take a piece that was already bent and bend it some more or take some out by hand. By using his weight and standing on it.
I bet he could lie in a hammock by holding one end up if he could only find a single tree. :D

LarryFine
12-06-2008, 01:36 AM
In my younger, drunker days I would put it on top of my head and bend 90's all day.

that explains a lotReally. Just look at his picture. :wink:

LarryFine
12-06-2008, 01:37 AM
Found this in my archives:

http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc172/480sparky/Old%20Stuff/bending.jpg

"Thanks, Dave!"



(Lennox)

220/221
12-06-2008, 04:58 AM
Can buy factory 90s and 45s

And 22.5's

ptonsparky
12-06-2008, 07:04 AM
Front end loader, but the tires leave unsightly black marks on the conduit.

Speedskater
12-06-2008, 07:49 PM
Bet that only works if you're wearing those spiffy clothes and hats. ;)

I just saw a picture of Britney Spears young son wearing a hat just like that!

Power Tech
12-06-2008, 08:15 PM
Looks like that will hurt. If I did that the board would break and I'de knock myself out.

Great idea about filling the conduit with sand. An friend said that is how they make stair rails.

About the truck tire and emt. you will kink it and it's a lesson in frustation.

Terry
Power Tech