More toys for the gullible public

[zbang]

I was walking through an appliance store recently and saw that Monster Cable is now producing dryer and range power cords. http://www.monstercable.com/power/appliance.asp

"Built differently from other electric range cords, PowerRange 300 and 400 features include the exclusive PowerFlow™ indicator light for continuous line status monitoring, large gauge high-purity copper conductors, heavy duty Duraflex® jacket, high strength metal strain relief, and 24k gold connections."

And... they're only $40 each!!! I don't know how I've gotten along without them.

They even have a surge suppressor for your air conditioner...

[480sparky]

Funny. They're 3-wire, not 4-wire.

I can't wait until they come out with MonsterCable telephone cords. I can't stand my non-gold-plated ones I have now.

[MJW]

Seems like a bargain compared to these.
http://www.audiofederation.com/catalog/power-cords/index.htm

[480sparky]

Seems like a bargain compared to these.
http://www.audiofederation.com/catalog/power-cords/index.htm


http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc172/480sparky/cryorecep.jpg

Forty bucks for a receptacle that's been stuck in a freezer? http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc172/480sparky/Emoticons/Angry_emoticon_by_smiekie.gif

[electricalperson]

i love monster cables but i think those range and dryer cords are just a little over the top

[iwire]

I think EVERYTHING monster cable sells is a high priced scam.

[Minuteman]

Funny. They're 3-wire, not 4-wire.

I can't wait until they come out with MonsterCable telephone cords. I can't stand my non-gold-plated ones I have now.

The 300 Series is 3-wire, the 400 Series is 4-wire.

[electricmanscott]

I do llike the colors!!

[electricalperson]

I think EVERYTHING monster cable sells is a high priced scam.

i use there bass cables and they are obviously high quality. ive used fender cables and they broke yet the monster ones i have now are a few years old and still like new

[ohm]

I was told by a sat. tv guy that the GE coax covers at HD were not rated for Hi Def. any truth to it?

[zbang]

I can't wait until they come out with MonsterCable telephone cords. I can't stand my non-gold-plated ones I have now.

Monster had them maybe 10 years ago ($20 for a 25' cable) but I can't find them on the web site now. ("Gold Plated!" ignoring the Part 68 requirement that all modular connectors have XX micro inches of gold on them.)

[alfiesauce]

It kills me to think that there is a range cable with an indicating light on it to tell you if there is power there or not at any moment.
WHO LOOKS UNDER THEIR RANGE FOR FUN!!!?!
In the present age of energy conservation the last thing we need is a light on our range or dryer cord to tell us that there is power there.


As far as high def goes- What I have been led to believe is that high def - because it is a digital signal - can actually run through some pretty bad components and wires because it's not warped because of interference like regular broadcast signals are. you can't warp 1's and 0's.

[Fulthrotl]

I was walking through an appliance store recently and saw that Monster Cable is now producing dryer cords. http://www.monstercable.com/power/appliance.asp

And... they're only $40 each!!! I don't know how I've gotten along without them.

http://www.monstercable.com/productdisplay.asp?pin=1727

well, everyone *knows* that if the dryer power does not come thru
cryogenically frozen copper wire, the third harmonic dysfunction will
cause static cling and pilling of your angora work clothes.

what gives, are you *NEW* or something? don't you know anything?

happy new year..... you'll have to wait till tomorrow to run down to
the store and buy these......:D

randy

[infinity]

I think EVERYTHING monster cable sells is a high priced scam.


I agree completely. It's just a great marketing scam where everyone from the manufacturer down to the seller makes large profits. The real loser is the end user who gets suckered into buying expensive stuff that they don't need.

[roger]

http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc172/480sparky/cryorecep.jpg

Forty bucks for a receptacle that's been stuck in a freezer? http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc172/480sparky/Emoticons/Angry_emoticon_by_smiekie.gif

That's not to bad, but if you want to be a champion sucker you have to go with these (http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/pshowdetl.cfm?&PartNumber=110-439&DID=7) :wink:

Be sure to buy at least four to get the price break.:D

Roger

[electricalperson]

That's not to bad, but if you want to be a champion sucker you have to go with these (http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/pshowdetl.cfm?&PartNumber=110-439&DID=7) :wink:

Be sure to buy at least four to get the price break.:D

Roger

why would someone want to spend 150 bucks on a receptacle? do they really make a difference or is it just a gimmick. im thinking its a gimmick

[480sparky]

That's not to bad, but if you want to be a champion sucker you have to go with these (http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/pshowdetl.cfm?&PartNumber=110-439&DID=7) :wink:

Be sure to buy at least four to get the price break.:D

Roger

Man, did I ever pick the wrong profession!

[Fulthrotl]

As far as high def goes- What I have been led to believe is that high def - because it is a digital signal - can actually run through some pretty bad components and wires because it's not warped because of interference like regular broadcast signals are. you can't warp 1's and 0's.

when 'pooters talk to each other, or even to themselves, at the machine
language level, there is a checksum, which is one piece of hardware saying
"can you hear me now", and another part of the system saying 'uh huh".
if it's a crummy connection, then it takes longer to communicate, same as
it would standing at an airport with a jet taking off. that's all CRC errors
are (cyclical redundancy check).

but there's a passel of money to be made in selling stuff lovingly crafted
from pure unobtainium. monster cable is just the beginning of a very slippery
hi definition slope.... i've seen speaker cables 12' long, that retail for $1,800
a pair...... and require a 100 mhz o-scope to properly tweak and balance
the capacitive reactance... blah, blah, blah.....

and during the second world war, the british did some groundbreaking
research on human perception of sound, in conjunction with sonar and
submarine warfare, that is still valid today.

the ears of the average 20 year old sonarman, (the best of the best
in hearing acuity) cannot tell less than five percent total harmonic
distortion. five percent. not five hundreths of a percent. five percent.

it's all just snobbery, the audiophile thingie...... don't tell nobody, but i
had a friend who's a serious audiophile tweak my car stereo for me, to
get that last bit of perfection.... :D and after he was all done, and blessed
and annoited the system, after a few days, something didn't sound right.

turns out he had rotated the whole sound stage 90 degrees, (left front
became right front, right front became right rear, etc.) and he never even
noticed it. this man has over $50k invested in home stereo equipment.

i switched it back, and never said a word.... :D ... now, the lead guitar
is back in the correct corner of the van.... what a relief. whew. that
fuzzed out schreecherk is right where i expected it to be.....

[electricman2]

Want another example. How about this (http://www.edenpurestore.com/). Pay $397 for the same amount of heat you can get with a $50 heater from Wal-Mart.

[480sparky]

All this, and we sqauk over $2 TR recepts. http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc172/480sparky/Emoticons/roto2gaydude.gif

[ArcNSpark]

I'm sure we can all agree that these receptacles are stupid, overpriced pieces of suckerbait...but imagine the dollar signs you'll see if a HO hands you a box of $150 receptacles and asks you how much to install them?!?

[macmikeman]

Not endorsing treatment of duplex receptacle outlets, but there is lots of good from treating metal with cryogenic tempering. Info here:http://www.diversifiedcryogenics.com/

[480sparky]

Not endorsing treatment of duplex receptacle outlets, but there is lots of good from treating metal with cryogenic tempering. Info here:http://www.diversifiedcryogenics.com/

I think I'll send 'em all my screwdrivers. I wonder if they can do my truck as well?

[Fulthrotl]

I think I'll send 'em all my screwdrivers. I wonder if they can do my truck as well?

let's quit fooling around and go to maximum extreme silliness....

gentlemen, i have for your viewing pleasure, a cable designed to interconnect
your checking account to the manufacturer's checking account.

it may have audio or electronic properties as well.

this is a cord to connect surplus money to a needy corporation.
it is the best there is. actually, it is ONE speaker cable. it is $30,995.00
$62,980.00 a pair.

http://i470.photobucket.com/albums/rr66/FulThrotl/OMM_700.jpg

this is a 2 meter power cord. it is the best there is.
it is $1,995.00

http://i470.photobucket.com/albums/rr66/FulThrotl/PLMM_700x407.jpg

where to order them?

http://transparentcable.com

[steelersman]

That's not to bad, but if you want to be a champion sucker you have to go with these (http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/pshowdetl.cfm?&PartNumber=110-439&DID=7) :wink:Be sure to buy at least four to get the price break.:DRoger


I like this user's review for this product you linked up Roger.




http://www.partsexpress.com/product_ratings/img/stars50.gifIncrediblulous!
Friday, October 24, 2008
S. Hitzn Grins from India
I have nothing but praises for this Wattgate Socket.

I did not install it in the wall as most probably do, but laid it out on the floor so I and my friends could admire its gold plating. I do not have children but my Miniature Schnauzer seems awfully scared by its wonderous beauty. He will not go near it, and that is good.
I once dropped a piece of tinfoil on it and its emissions lit up the room. The energy it released was such a powerful, spiritual event! I have tried several times since and have yet to observe the event with the same intensity.

Such a performer, this Wattgate!

[steelersman]

Or this guy who truly believes that it enhances his experience:


http://www.partsexpress.com/product_ratings/img/stars45.gifTo listen is to believe
Saturday, September 27, 2008
Françcois from Quebec, Canada
I have a fine tuned tube amp. based system. My Ac cords already incorporate Wattgate plugs. I used this one to replace the Hospital grade one I was using in the wall. This new plug truly redefined the experience from listening my sound system. I get more deeper base and also additional details in the overall spectrum.

If your system is already fine tuned, it will make a significant improvement.

[steelersman]

Want another example. How about this (http://www.edenpurestore.com/). Pay $397 for the same amount of heat you can get with a $50 heater from Wal-Mart.
My friend has this. He says it is true what they say aobut it. It doesn't get hot to the touch. It's not a fire hazard. It does not dry the air out. I don't think that they claim to put out more heat, just a better quality heat and heat the room up more evenly instead of being more hot near the heater than accross the room.

[iwire]

just a better quality heat and heat the room up more evenly instead of being more hot near the heater than across the room.


Better quality heat? Boy does that sound like salesman talk.

As heard on the Paul Harvey Radio Show and television features across the nation. The EdenPure TM is a remarkable new advanced portable heater can cut your heating bill up to 50% and pay for itself in a matter of weeks!



There is no way an electric heater will cut your heating costs by 50% unless you only heat the room that this unit is in

[steelersman]

Better quality heat? Boy does that sound like salesman talk.



There is no way an electric heater will cut your heating costs by 50% unless you only heat the room that this unit is in
more energy efficient. Just relaying what my coworker told me. I can believe it. Lots of skeptics on this forum it seems.

Hey you don't have to try to make fun of me just because you said sexiest instead of sexist. :)

[ceb58]

That's not to bad, but if you want to be a champion sucker you have to go with these (http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/pshowdetl.cfm?&PartNumber=110-439&DID=7) :wink:

Be sure to buy at least four to get the price break.:D

Roger

And look who's buying them:-?



http://www.partsexpress.com/product_ratings/img/stars50.gifIncrediblulous!
Friday, October 24, 2008
S. Hitzn Grins from India
I have nothing but praises for this Wattgate Socket.

I did not install it in the wall as most probably do, but laid it out on the floor so I and my friends could admire its gold plating. I do not have children but my Miniature Schnauzer seems awfully scared by its wonderous beauty. He will not go near it, and that is good.
I once dropped a piece of tinfoil on it and its emissions lit up the room. The energy it released was such a powerful, spiritual event! I have tried several times since and have yet to observe the event with the same intensity.

Such a performer, this Wattgate

[iwire]

more energy efficient. Just relaying what my coworker told me. I can believe it. Lots of skeptics on this forum it seems.

And you are one skeptics until you got to this product.:D



Hey you don't have to try to make fun of me just because you said sexiest instead of sexist. :)

The fact that you pointed out I can not spell does not upset me.:smile:

[GUNNING]

Barnum said there is a sucker born every minute. I think its a demonstration of "if you don't ask you wont get it. " I think of all the hot tubs I have installed just so people can be happy with hot bubbly watter around there butts. I'm Grateful for the Over the top consumerism we've got going on. I, for one, don't want to live in a mud hut with a corrugated tin roof.
New years resolution : I will only install cryogenically treated receptacles from now on.

[steelersman]

I'm Grateful for the Over the top consumerism we've got going on. I, for one, don't want to live in a mud hut with a corrugated tin roof.

Sometimes I wish that's how I lived. Life might be a little less stressful that way. Much simpler. Less is more. But I wouldn't want a corrgated tin roof. I would want a thatch roof I think.

[Fulthrotl]

The fact that you pointed out I can not spell does not upset me.:smile:

hm. was it really a mispelling? what are these two men trying to tell us?
8-)

[Fulthrotl]

Sometimes I wish that's how I lived. Life might be a little less stressful that way. Much simpler. Less is more. But I wouldn't want a corrgated tin roof. I would want a thatch roof I think.

less is more only applies on april 15.:D
and then, only if they don't notice.

the truth is, more is less. there are very few
paupers in bankruptcy court who were paupers
before they needed to go there.

the quickest way to see someone make a small
fortune is to give them a large fortune.:D

[iwire]

hm. was it really a mispelling? what are these two men trying to tell us?
8-)

I am not sure that is a road you want to travel.:D

I am still trying to figure out the need for over the top bikes, audio systems and tools. One possible reason (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/overcompensating) :D:D

[peter d]

I am not sure that is a road you want to travel.:D

I am still trying to figure out the need for over the top bikes, audio systems and tools. One possible reason (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/overcompensating) :D:D

Wow.

I am truly speechless. :D

[bradleyelectric]

I am not sure that is a road you want to travel.:D

go ahead Fulthrotl make his day!!

[Fulthrotl]

go ahead Fulthrotl make his day!!

nope. i started it. i own that part. for that i apologize.

he's still trying to figure me out, and needs to put a link to what he
thinks it is. Bob, the word is overcompensating. it's not a hard word.
you can spell it. you can even type if yourself, if that's what you
really believe. honesty and candor are acceptable responses.

Bob, i can assure you, if i need a word to describe you, i won't have to
look it up in the dictionary. it'll be in the fourth column. don't bother
asking what the fourth column is. you aren't there yet. you wouldn't
understand the response.

thanks for the feedback. it is always appreciated.


randy

[steelersman]

Ouch! I don't understand what is going on.

[iwire]

Bob, the word is overcompensating. it's not a hard word.
you can spell it. you can even type if yourself, if that's what you
really believe. honesty and candor are acceptable responses.

Randy, lighten up, it was a joke, just like your "what are these two men trying to tell us?" comment.

[LarryFine]

As far as high def goes- What I have been led to believe is that high def - because it is a digital signal - can actually run through some pretty bad components and wires because it's not warped because of interference like regular broadcast signals are.Partly correct, but not all hi-def is digital. Component video, like XVGA, is analog and every bit as hi-def as digital, and has some advantages as well.

[wbalsam1]

Quote:
Originally Posted by GUNNING http://forums.mikeholt.com/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://forums.mikeholt.com/showthread.php?p=979473#post979473)
I'm Grateful for the Over the top consumerism we've got going on. I, for one, don't want to live in a mud hut with a corrugated tin roof.


Sometimes I wish that's how I lived. Life might be a little less stressful that way. Much simpler. Less is more. But I wouldn't want a corrgated tin roof. I would want a thatch roof I think.

Just remember to bond the metal roof...if you've got electricity, that is.:wink:

[Mr.Sparkle]

There have numerous capacitance studies done to show that monster cables are no better than the majority of any other decent quality cables out there. You could probably find them online by googling "monster cable capacitance test" or something similar.

Electrical person,

I also have some of the monster bass cables that I use but it is purely for the lifetime warranty, it does not matter what happens to the cable, if it is ruined all you gotta do is go to a dealer and they take the old one and hand you a new one no questions asked, I have done this at least 5 times in the last 10 years. Makes you wonder how much money they are making on us eh???

EP, If you are interested in making your own instrument cables check out Canare GS-6 cable and Neutrik jacks. You can get 100ft. of cable for under a hundred bucks and if you are good at soldering you will have plenty of cables that absolutely crush monster in terms of quality & fidelity. :grin:

Just to keep this post on topic I think those range and dryer cords are ridiculous.

[steelersman]

Just remember to bond the metal roof...if you've got electricity, that is.:wink:


I don't think bonding a thatch roof would do anything. I probably wouldn't have any electricity if I were to live like that anyway.

[macmikeman]

I don't think bonding a thatch roof would do anything. I probably wouldn't have any electricity if I were to live like that anyway.

I lived in a home made tree fort in a coconut grove by the beach at Rincon Puerto Rico from September 1974- June 1974. No electricity. Just surfing, catching fish and lobster and dining on coconuts. But then again I was 17 years old, fresh out of high school. At that age it didn't seem so rough at all, mater of fact it was a great time. Too bad things like that can't go on forever. Now Rincon beaches are buried under condo's and hotels.

[MichaelGP3]

They never call out the wire gauge on many of the speaker cables they market. That aside, I found this link to make for interesting reading......

http://www.audioholics.com/news/industry-news/blue-jeans-strikes-back

[kornbln]

Funny. They're 3-wire, not 4-wire.

I can't wait until they come out with MonsterCable telephone cords. I can't stand my non-gold-plated ones I have now.

You mean these? http://www.monstercable.com/productdisplay.asp?pin=448

They are gold-plated, etc... Let's just forget about the miles of possibly decades old copper lines inside your walls all the way to the tel co :)

[iwire]

They never call out the wire gauge on many of the speaker cables they market. That aside, I found this link to make for interesting reading......

http://www.audioholics.com/news/industry-news/blue-jeans-strikes-back


After reading your link I did some Googling, swell company.:rolleyes:

http://www.monsterminigolf.com/bully.html

http://www.eastbayri.com/detail/80811.html

Earlier this year, Monster Cable Inc., based in California, filed a lawsuit against the Providence-based mini-golf chain Monster Golf, alleging trademark infringement for use of the word “Monster.” The lawsuit is one of more than 400 brought forth by Monster Cable Inc., including legal attacks on the television show “Monster Garage,” and even against the “Monster Seats” located on top of Fenway Park’s left field wall.

[Mr.Sparkle]

After reading your link I did some Googling, swell company.:rolleyes:

http://www.monsterminigolf.com/bully.html

http://www.eastbayri.com/detail/80811.html

wow glad I have not given them any of my money in years....

[steelersman]

I lived in a home made tree fort in a coconut grove by the beach at Rincon Puerto Rico from September 1974- June 1974.

So you managed to make time go in reverse? Sep.-June 1974. Just kidding. I guess you meant Sept. 74-June 75. That sounds pretty cool. I wish I could say I've done something similar but I didn't. I did stay in Puerto Rico once for a week in a hotel. Might have been one of the ones that are now on top of Rincon. :)

[macmikeman]

So you managed to make time go in reverse? Sep.-June 1974. Just kidding. I guess you meant Sept. 74-June 75. That sounds pretty cool. I wish I could say I've done something similar but I didn't. I did stay in Puerto Rico once for a week in a hotel. Might have been one of the ones that are now on top of Rincon. :)

Whoops, Sept 73-June 74. I graduated 73, flew down there the day after graduation, and lived in hostels from June to Sept, then built a thatched roof thingamajig to live in in the coconut grove. I didn't pioneer this, there were dozens of other surf rats down there doing the same thing.

[steelersman]

Whoops, Sept 73-June 74. I graduated 73, flew down there the day after graduation, and lived in hostels from June to Sept, then built a thatched roof thingamajig to live in in the coconut grove. I didn't pioneer this, there were dozens of other surf rats down there doing the same thing.
what's a hostel?

[macmikeman]

Fleabag hotel. Think $3 or $4 bucks a night.

[steelersman]

Fleabag hotel. Think $3 or $4 bucks a night.
oh ok gotcha.

[Mr.Sparkle]

mac,

When is the last time you were in Rincon? It has been on my list of places to go surf for 10 years and I think this year may be the one. I have been told it is a great place to go, just not on weekends because of the localism, a friend of mine showed me pictures of Tres Palmas from last winter, it was huuuuuge. Some great surf there.

[TOOL_5150]

i use there bass cables and they are obviously high quality. ive used fender cables and they broke yet the monster ones i have now are a few years old and still like new

I use the monster pro 3500 to protect my $25,000 worth of music equipment. These conditioners are built better then furman for sure. As far as their audio cables... all hype, I use a different brand.

~Matt

[bjp_ne_elec]

I think EVERYTHING monster cable sells is a high priced scam.

You know the old saying - "there's a sucker born every minute" (P.T. Barnum).

[TOOL_5150]

That's not to bad, but if you want to be a champion sucker you have to go with these (http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/pshowdetl.cfm?&PartNumber=110-439&DID=7) :wink:

Be sure to buy at least four to get the price break.:D

Roger

You guys should follow that link and read the 6 reviews... Really.. do it! :grin:

~Matt

[iwire]

I use the monster pro 3500 to protect my $25,000 worth of music equipment. These conditioners are built better then furman for sure. As far as their audio cables... all hype, I use a different brand.

~Matt

Matt, where do you find unbiased info on such equipment?

Truthfully without a lot of expensive testing gear how do we know if it really does what it is supposed to or it is just a box with some stuff in it?

I can entirely understand why you would want to protect your gear, perhaps the best way is a contactor that disconnects the equipment when your not using it?

[steelersman]

You guys should follow that link and read the 6 reviews... Really.. do it! :grin:

see post #25 and 26. You're a little late. :)

[steelersman]

After reading your link I did some Googling, swell company.:rolleyes:

http://www.monsterminigolf.com/bully.html

http://www.eastbayri.com/detail/80811.html
Thanks for the good links. I can't believe these bullies. Ticks me off to no end. I can gladly say I've never once purchased an overpriced, overhyped monster cable product. And I obviously never will!

On another note...I was thinking of starting my own electrical company. I was going to call it Monster Electrical Services. :) <--Joke. I guess I'd better think of a different name unless I'm willing to fight the big battle like the MonsterMiniGolf people are. Good luck to them, and I hope they can bring these bullies back down to Earth.

[iwire]

I was thinking of starting my own electrical company. I was going to call it Monster Electrical Services.


Oh man, they already have a letter on the way.:D

[TOOL_5150]

see post #25 and 26. You're a little late. :)

wouldnt be the first time... and wont be the last. :D

~Matt

[ohm]

Here we are w/ 64 posts about wires and connectors and I keep hearing what a phone co. guy once told me: "if it touches it talks"

[TOOL_5150]

Matt, where do you find unbiased info on such equipment?

Truthfully without a lot of expensive testing gear how do we know if it really does what it is supposed to or it is just a box with some stuff in it?

I can entirely understand why you would want to protect your gear, perhaps the best way is a contactor that disconnects the equipment when your not using it?

At the time I was looking to purchase a new conditioner, I had the oppertunity to have a furman and monster side by side and pull the covers off. the specs read better, the parts looked better and all over the build quality of the monster just beat the competition. Having 1 audio source go through switchers, audio processors then out to 4 amps can cause a lot of hum. The monster killed all hum with the whole setup, The furman did not. The only thing I couldnt do was put an O-scope on the output and see how really clean the power was.

Ill post a pic of the inside later on- when I find it.

~Matt

[TOOL_5150]

Thanks for the good links. I can't believe these bullies. Ticks me off to no end. I can gladly say I've never once purchased an overpriced, overhyped monster cable product. And I obviously never will!

On another note...I was thinking of starting my own electrical company. I was going to call it Monster Electrical Services. :) <--Joke. I guess I'd better think of a different name unless I'm willing to fight the big battle like the MonsterMiniGolf people are. Good luck to them, and I hope they can bring these bullies back down to Earth.

You should call it Monster Electrical Services and Support: MESS for short :grin:

~Matt

[peter d]

You should call it Monster Electrical Services and Support: MESS for short :grin:

~Matt


i used to work for "C.E.S.S."

Cess pool was a name I heard a few times.

[macmikeman]

mac,

When is the last time you were in Rincon? It has been on my list of places to go surf for 10 years and I think this year may be the one. I have been told it is a great place to go, just not on weekends because of the localism, a friend of mine showed me pictures of Tres Palmas from last winter, it was huuuuuge. Some great surf there.

Check your P.M. I have hijacked this thread enough allready.:roll:

[steelersman]

At the time I was looking to purchase a new conditioner, I had the oppertunity to have a furman and monster side by side and pull the covers off. the specs read better, the parts looked better and all over the build quality of the monster just beat the competition. Having 1 audio source go through switchers, audio processors then out to 4 amps can cause a lot of hum. The monster killed all hum with the whole setup, The furman did not. The only thing I couldnt do was put an O-scope on the output and see how really clean the power was.

Ill post a pic of the inside later on- when I find it.

~Matt
I don't care how much they pulled the wool over your eyes, I would never buy from them knowing what I know now from how they bully small businesses into forfeiting their rights and names.

[marcerrin]

let's quit fooling around and go to maximum extreme silliness....

gentlemen, i have for your viewing pleasure, a cable designed to interconnect
your checking account to the manufacturer's checking account.

it may have audio or electronic properties as well.

this is a cord to connect surplus money to a needy corporation.
it is the best there is. actually, it is ONE speaker cable. it is $30,995.00
$62,980.00 a pair.

http://i470.photobucket.com/albums/rr66/FulThrotl/OMM_700.jpg

this is a 2 meter power cord. it is the best there is.
it is $1,995.00







http://i470.photobucket.com/albums/rr66/FulThrotl/PLMM_700x407.jpg

where to order them?

http://transparentcable.com


Holy crap!! I thought you were joking. Theres a cable on that website that for $43,000!!!!

[Fulthrotl]

Holy crap!! I thought you were joking. Theres a cable on that website that for $43,000!!!!

guess i missed that one... who would have thought they would
go above the $30,000 per cable ceiling established by wal mart?

see, with just a little research, absurd can be shown to be increased
by 43 percent. i wonder if it sounds 43 percent better than the
$30,000 cable......

[TOOL_5150]

I don't care how much they pulled the wool over your eyes, I would never buy from them knowing what I know now from how they bully small businesses into forfeiting their rights and names.

Im not trying to sell their product... Heck, My opinion of them as a company has changed since I bout that piece of equipment - roughly a year and a half ago. I was just stating facts about a product of theirs that I own.

~Matt

[kbsparky]

If you really believe that Monster cables make for better sound, then here is a link for a blind test against an ordinary coat hanger. (http://www.engadget.com/2008/03/03/audiophiles-cant-tell-the-difference-between-monster-cable-and/)

Guess what? The snotty audiophiles could not tell the difference! :grin:

[iaov]

I think EVERYTHING monster cable sells is a high priced scam.Agreeded!! These guys at Monster Cable prove PT Barnum right every day.:smile:

[steelersman]

Agreeded!! These guys at Monster Cable prove PT Barnum right every day.:smile:
what does agreeded mean? Oh I just got it I think. From the context I can deduce that you most likely meant agreed. :)

[LarryFine]

what does agreeded mean?
It's the past tense of 'agreed'. :wink:

Like 'all y'all' is plural for 'y'all'.

[James@CHA]

I think EVERYTHING monster cable sells is a high priced scam.

I would use any of their products for Audio/Visual, but range and dryer cords seem a little odd. Maybe people think their clothes will dry faster?

The Audio/Video gear is top quality, most definitley not a scam.

[ishium 80439]

About 6 months ago I took an A/V class and there was a rep from one a cable manufacturer (for the life of me I can't think of which one, General Cable maybe?) and the topic of speaker cables came up. Basically he said that the whole overpriced speaker cable is a sham and everyone knows it, but if people are willing to spend money on it they are willing to keep providing it. Aren't there many discussions on this board about maximizing profit? If someone wants a $300 receptacle from me I will provide and install it with a smile.:D

He also said that HDMI was bunk, that component A/V cables still gave the best results. I have not researched that one myself but considering the source (ie someone who will make money on the sale of HDMI cables) I feel that the statement has merit.

[steelersman]

I would use any of their products for Audio/Visual, but range and dryer cords seem a little odd. Maybe people think their clothes will dry faster?

The Audio/Video gear is top quality, most definitley not a scam.
It might not be a full blown scam, in that you are getting what they claim to be selling, ie. gold plated this and that and yada yada yada, but it's definitely not doing anything better for your ears. It's not improving the sound quality enough for the human ear to detect it IMO. Maybe computers and monitors and the like can detect the "improved" acoustics, but I don't buy into that mumbo jumbo. Especially after reding the experiment where people couldn't tell the difference between monster cables and coat hanger wire, when music was played through both as speaker cable. :)

[steelersman]

He also said that HDMI was bunk, that component A/V cables still gave the best results.


This is interesting. I wonder if that is true.

[prh1700]

[QUOTE= Especially after reding the experiment [/QUOTE]

Do you have to use a megger to reding an experiment?

OK, These little smiley face icons are just not playing nice. Everytime I go to use one it ends up way up there instead of here.

The megger statement was just a joke.

[jim dungar]

These little smiley face icons are just not playing nice. Everytime I go to use one it ends up way up there instead of here.

Use the ones on the right hand side of the screen when you want the smiley in the post.

Use the ones on the bottom when you want the smiley next to the topic.

[prh1700]

Somebody took the ones on the right. Or me and my big dumb fingers deleted them.

[LarryFine]

He also said that HDMI was bunk, that component A/V cables still gave the best results. I have not researched that one myself but considering the source (ie someone who will make money on the sale of HDMI cables) I feel that the statement has merit.

This is interesting. I wonder if that is true.
I, for one, certainly agree with it. I have only component cabling for my AV system (except for the non-component-equipped sources, of course.) There are hidden flags and signals in digital bitstreams that can control resolution and other aspects.

My pre/pro switches component signals, up-converts composite and S-video singals to component, and outputs to the transcoder that converts the component video to RGB/HV for my CRT projector. Component video is as hi-def as any digital video.

[ohm]

I installed a cable & power receptacle behind a new 52" high def flatscreen.
It simply went down a few feet and came back out to keep the cables off the wall.

Well the owner pointed out that there were streaks in the picture. He fed his sat converer with a 25 ft. Walmart co-ax cable. I replaced it with a length of 1Ghz RG-6 co-ax from HD. Everything cleared up, I chopped up his extension and I learned something about bandpass.

One question I do have for Larry is; does a single garden variety co-ax connector have a lot of affect on signal quality or can I continue to cheap out on wall outlets?

[LarryFine]

does a single garden variety co-ax connector have a lot of affect on signal quality or can I continue to cheap out on wall outlets?
For plain ol' cable TV, the cheap crimp connectors (Ideal at HD, right?) are adequate, but for satellite and hi-def cable (and cable internet), I heartily recommend a good compression-type of connector.

You already know that the cable itself matters. Connector quality does, too, but proper connector installation is even more important. Even shield strands hanging outside the connector can cause problems.

To mention: it is unusual in my experience to see the RG6 run directly to the TV in a home-theater installation. There's usually a cable or satellite tuner, and AV cabling from there on; the TV is only a monitor.

[ohm]

For plain ol' cable TV, the cheap crimp connectors (Ideal at HD, right?) are adequate, but for satellite and hi-def cable (and cable internet), I heartily recommend a good compression-type of connector.

You already know that the cable itself matters. Connector quality does, too, but proper connector installation is even more important. Even shield strands hanging outside the connector can cause problems.

To mention: it is unusual in my experience to see the RG6 run directly to the TV in a home-theater installation. There's usually a cable or satellite tuner, and AV cabling from there on; the TV is only a monitor.

Thanks in advance Larry. Do you mean the HD style connectors if made up properly (die crimper) wouldn't insert too much loss or do you advocate the high dollar kind rated in the Ghz?

[LarryFine]

Thanks in advance Larry. Do you mean the HD style connectors if made up properly (die crimper) wouldn't insert too much loss or do you advocate the high dollar kind rated in the Ghz?For a couple of plugs, indoors, the cheap ones are okay, but if I were doing a complete premises wiring job, I'd get a bag of good connectors and the right tool.