Wiring a Margarita Machine

[shamsdebout]

Anyone ever did work for Wet Willies or resturant that has a slushie/margita machine, if so please explain how your wired it up.

[shamsdebout]

http://www.frostyfactory.com/235.php - Here is the unit
http://www.frostyfactory.com/docs/wiring_diagram_235.pdf - Wiring Diagram

I have included some pics of this unit, it comes with a 10' plug, would you install it with the plug or hard wire it, and if so how you do it.

[growler]

I have included some pics of this unit, it comes with a 10' plug, would you install it with the plug or hard wire it, and if so how you do it.

It's comes with a cord so that's what it would use. It looks as if it comes factory wired for 120V with the option to use 230.
So I would give it a dedicated 20 Amp. 120V receptacle.

Just looked again, the option 230 at 50 hertz must be for over seas use. Keep it at 120V.

[LarryFine]

It's comes with a cord so that's what it would use. It looks as if it comes factory wired for 120V with the option to use 230.
So I would give it a dedicated 20 Amp. 120V receptacle.

Just looked again, the option 230 at 50 hertz must be for over seas use. Keep it at 120V.I opt for the higher voltage whenever practical to do so.

[shamsdebout]

Margaritas. One is never enough and two is too many.

OP what is the issue? and what sort of receptacle accepts a 10 foot long plug?


Well I was trying to visualize (I am not qualified to wire it up and wont lol) how one would install this to match the application shown in the picture. Lets say you had 24 of these units install in a resturant how would you go about wiring it up. I was wondering whether some may hard-wire the unit or utilize the chord and plug included. It use a NEMA 5-15 plug if running at 120V. In the pictures it seems as if the units were recessed (26" dept) so I would like to know how you would go about doing that. Basically wanting to learn some tips of the trade from the experts.

[ronmath]

I would think the answer would lie in accessibility. If the units come out or there is an accessible room behind, you should be able to just install 5-20receptacles as called for. If they are more "built in" and you have to disassemble the wall for them to come out, then I would think you might have to hardwire them with lock-off devices at the panel for disconnects. See 400.8 (5) and 422.16 (A) (such as a disposal). I think you should coordinate this with your local AHJ also.

[celtic]

Voltage: 115 -- Opt. 230
Hertz: 60 -- Opt. 50
Amperage Draw: 6 amp
Circuit Breaker: 20 amp
Plug Configuration: 230 volt, 20 amp
NEMA 5-20

Put a 20A 220V single recept. on the wall and pour yourself a frosty.

[growler]

Put a 20A 220V single recept. on the wall and pour yourself a frosty.

This unit requires an install by the refrigeration guys, this is just the dispenser unit there is a seperate condenser unit that goes someplace ( probably outside). It has a refrigeration line that must be connected.

They do mention that three dispensers can be hooked to one condenser.

The reason that I would use 120V is that it's available and on the other hand there is probably only 208 if this is commercial and the machine is listed for 230V. The 120 is one of the operating voltages that's listed on the name plate. It will work fine on 208V but I like to stay with name plate listings if possible ( warranty and all that crap ).

[shamsdebout]

This unit requires an install by the refrigeration guys, this is just the dispenser unit there is a seperate condenser unit that goes someplace ( probably outside). It has a refrigeration line that must be connected.

They do mention that three dispensers can be hooked to one condenser.

The reason that I would use 120V is that it's available and on the other hand there is probably only 208 if this is commercial and the machine is listed for 230V. The 120 is one of the operating voltages that's listed on the name plate. It will work fine on 208V but I like to stay with name plate listings if possible ( warranty and all that crap ).


The building will have a 480/277V service, we are going to use 120 V for the units. We will be powering 24 of these units. We are looking at 400A at 480/277V for this building.

[luckyshadow]

These units are only 35" tall. Just mount the receptacles in the wall above the units. Like everyone does in commercial kitchens for the refrigerators.

And what is even MORE important - This machine has the capability of putting out ......
320 10oz drinks an hour !!

Thats more then even more then Jimmy Buffet can handle!

Raise you hand if your thinking Hang over

[shamsdebout]

These units are only 35" tall. Just mount the receptacles in the wall above the units. Like everyone does in commercial kitchens for the refrigerators.

And what is even MORE important - This machine has the capability of putting out ......
320 10oz drinks an hour !!

Thats more then even more then Jimmy Buffet can handle!

Raise you hand if your thinking Hang over

In the pictures I posted it seemed like it was hardwired, was that how it looked to you?

[luckyshadow]

It's hard to tell how the machines are wired in the posted pictures. I would need to see the backs of those machines. Whats behind the panels over the machines? Is there access to that area? Do those machines pull out easily?
I did a laundry mat that had the machines lined up the same way, with a partition over them to make it look built in. There was access to the backs to get to the power and water. Could this be the same type of set up? They could very well be hard wired,but someone had to get to the connections to do it. I would request more information if I were you

[shamsdebout]

It's hard to tell how the machines are wired in the posted pictures. I would need to see the backs of those machines. Whats behind the panels over the machines? Is there access to that area? Do those machines pull out easily?
I did a laundry mat that had the machines lined up the same way, with a partition over them to make it look built in. There was access to the backs to get to the power and water. Could this be the same type of set up? They could very well be hard wired,but someone had to get to the connections to do it. I would request more information if I were you


I have no answers for those questions. I fould another picture that my shed some more light. I wonder if they ran the chord down into that cabinet area near the floor, I assume the receptacles are in there, coveniently isolated from the outside world.
How did you wire up the machines at the laundry mat?

[c2500]

This has got to be the most OT deleted post I have ever seen.

[chris kennedy]

This has got to be the most OT deleted post I have ever seen.

Please don't let this drive you to drinking.

Delete on...

[iwire]

Please don't let this drive you to drinking.

It seemed to me that the OP deserved a little more than 7 honest replies and 28 - 30 posts on drinking.

[LarryFine]

It seemed to me that the OP deserved a little more than 7 honest replies and 28 - 30 posts on drinking.What's funny is that you even deleted some of your own posts as OT, so at least you understand how it happens. :smile:

[chris kennedy]

What's funny is that you even deleted some of your own posts as OT, so at least you understand how it happens. :smile:

And I believe the OP's question was answered yesterday.

[JohnJ0906]

It's comes with a cord so that's what it would use. It looks as if it comes factory wired for 120V with the option to use 230.
So I would give it a dedicated 20 Amp. 120V receptacle.

Just looked again, the option 230 at 50 hertz must be for over seas use. Keep it at 120V.




Voltage: 115 -- Opt. 230
Hertz: 60 -- Opt. 50



Phase: 1
Amperage Draw: 6 amp
Circuit Breaker: 20 amp
Plug Configuration: 230 volt, 20 amp
NEMA 5-20



It looks as if it comes with a factory cord with a 20 amp 230v plug, but the internals come set up for 120v.
I wonder if that 6 amp draw is at 230v or 115?
I would install receptacles to match the cord (to avoid changing all those cord caps) but you might have to change each unit to 230v internally.
Do you have a number for a manufacturer tech?

[electricmanscott]

It seemed to me that the OP deserved a little more than 7 honest replies and 28 - 30 posts on drinking.

It seems to me that you are incorrect. :grin:

Just wanted to join the fun. Hiccup ;)

[iwire]

so at least you understand how it happens. :smile:

Yes I do, it happens very easily. :smile:

[quogueelectric]

Alright how about just look at the nameplate and wire acordingly. Is that better??

[shamsdebout]

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It looks as if it comes with a factory cord with a 20 amp 230v plug, but the internals come set up for 120v.
I wonder if that 6 amp draw is at 230v or 115?
I would install receptacles to match the cord (to avoid changing all those cord caps) but you might have to change each unit to 230v internally.
Do you have a number for a manufacturer tech?


I was able to speak to a tech and he was quite helpful, he said that using 120V the unit draws 10A. Thanks for all the assistance, and the other interesting posts.

[LarryFine]

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It looks as if it comes with a factory cord with a 20 amp 230v plug, but the internals come set up for 120v.There's a disaster waiting to happen. :rolleyes:

[LarryFine]

I was able to speak to a tech and he was quite helpful, he said that using 120V the unit draws 10A.
Unless each machine requires its own circuit anyway, wiring them for 240v would allow three per circuit, instead of one per 120v circuit

[peter d]

There's a disaster waiting to happen. :rolleyes:

That would make a smoke flavored margarita, obviously.