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220/221
03-06-2009, 06:54 PM
Someone retro installed a load controller several years ago at this residence. After they slipped the amp reader coils around the service conductors, they forgot to re tighten the lugs.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a8/JohnC1952/Electrical104.jpg

I don't mean that they didn't tighten them enough, they didn't tighten them at all. I pulled them out without losening the lugs

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a8/JohnC1952/Electrical109.jpg

The two wires were melted together at the top where they touched. It was coming close to a phase to phase short. When I pulled them apart, about 2" of bare wire was exposed.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a8/JohnC1952/Electrical111.jpg


The POCO guy noticed it when they were temporarily borrowing a neutral for the neighbors house. They left their split bolt and wire stub in there when they were done :rolleyes:


I replaced the breaker and shortened up the wires a bit.

fireryan
03-06-2009, 07:35 PM
thanks for the pics. Hopefully everything else in there was tight:roll:

LarryFine
03-06-2009, 07:42 PM
The POCO guy noticed it when they were temporarily borrowing a neutral for the neighbors house. They left their split bolt and wire stub in there when they were done :rolleyes:What's that they tied onto? It looks like a bundle of individual EGC's.

Podagrower
03-06-2009, 07:42 PM
Any p%^&&* can wire it to code, it takes a real man to face a multi-million dollar wrongful death lawsuit.

wireguru
03-06-2009, 08:07 PM
wait, so the poco 'borrowed' a neutral to feed a neighbors house, by splicing a wire into this panel? Where in the world is the poco allowed to do that? I could see them doing it in the meter can with the argument its theirs, but in the panel, downstream from the meter? If I ever caught the poco doing that to my house there would be one heck of a lawsuit....and cops too probably.

220/221
03-06-2009, 09:07 PM
This was in Scottsdale AZ, part of a good sized metropolitan area.

They tied onto the #4 standed ufer.

I have seen them do this on more than one occaision for an overnight/temp repair. They run the neutral above ground to a neighbors house. I never really paid attention where they tied into before.

charlietuna
03-06-2009, 09:27 PM
Looks like plenty of wire for re-terminating- use know-lox -- thanks for the pictures.

480sparky
03-06-2009, 09:29 PM
.....- use know-lox -- .......

On copper?


(Hi, Peter!)

jrannis
03-06-2009, 10:16 PM
Seems like they would have shorted the CTs when they abandoned them