licensing

[dan55]

I was just reading a post about somebody on this forum about somebody wanting to start a new electrical contracting business. One thing that caught my eye was he (or she) said that where they were at they were not required to have a license. Is this true and how many states are like that? Where I am at I have to carry a electrical contractors and a city masters. Are they states that allow journyman to be in the contracting business.

[JWCELECTRIC]

In MA, a Journyman Electrical Licence allows a person to have a business and pull permits, he can only employ one helper, and he has to use his full name as it apears on his license as his business name. A Masters license allows a person to hire other licensed electricians and change the name of his busniess to what he wants.

[ceknight]

.......One thing that caught my eye was he (or she) said that where they were at they were not required to have a license. Is this true and how many states are like that? Where I am at I have to carry a electrical contractors and a city masters. Are they states that allow journyman to be in the contracting business.

I believe the post you're referring to was from someone in New York State. In NYS, electrical licensing is municipal -- the bigger cities will require it, but outside of the city limits we're pretty much all trunkslammers.

In NYS you can have a contracting business just by declaring that you have one. :)

[luckyshadow]

In Pennsylvania there is no state license. There are parts of that state that require no license at all. ANYONE can pull a permit and do electric work.

Some of the larger cities have "local" licenses

[Dnkldorf]

In Pennsylvania there is no state license. There are parts of that state that require no license at all. ANYONE can pull a permit and do electric work.




Try competing in a market like that.

Lots of heartaches to be had.

[fireryan]

Iowa just started ours last month

[480sparky]

Iowa just started ours last month

And hopefully we can start cracking down on all the unlicensed hacks and under-licensed wanna-be-contractors.

[Rewire]

Missouri is another state that has no license requirements St Louis ,Kansas City,Columbia,Jefferson City require a municiple license Some other smaller citys require a contractors license they only require Insurance.

If all the work was done correctly I would soon be out of businesss sinse most of our work is in the service end

[fireryan]

And hopefully we can start cracking down on all the unlicensed hacks and under-licensed wanna-be-contractors.

I agree 480

[ItsHot]

I believe there are about 5 states that do not require license?

[dan55]

Federal Government jobs only require a working knowledged of the code. What's up with that?

[ceknight]

Federal Government jobs only require a working knowledged of the code. What's up with that?

Egad, talk about the crushing weight of governmental regulations. Who can afford a working knowledge of the code these days? :)

[cowboyjwc]

Here in CA you only have to have four year of verifiable employment as an electrician to apply for your contractors license and not at a journymans level either. Of course you still have to pass the test.

[Fulthrotl]

Federal Government jobs only require a working knowledged of the code. What's up with that?

yup. no local permits either. i've done work on USMC facilities, and there
is no inspection, permits, or business license.

just don't annoy the powers that be. you are not, strictly speaking, afforded
all the rights a citizen comes to know and love. you are on a US military
reservation. politeness, and strictly following all the rules is strongly suggested.

i had a misunderstanding with the master sargent who was in charge of pass
and id, at camp pendelton. resolution of that misunderstanding takes the form
of the misunderstander saying things to the misunderstoodee like:

"SIR, i apologize to you for disrespecting the office of pass and id.
what would you have me do to make this right, SIR?"

failure to perform this correction promply and with apolmb, can lead to
immediate forfeiture of tools, work vehicle, and your right to go home tonight.
shoot, and that was long before 9/11. now, they'd prolly just have shot me.

but, it's nice work if you can get it. i redesigned the control and safety
systems for the missle test cells... it was fun... except the stockade part.:mad:

[Rewire]

Back when I was sixteen I landed aweekend job delivering dounuts to the chow halls at Ft Leonard Wood ,I always made a point of collecting a box of dounuts to drop off for the MPs at the main gate to share ith the patrol guys.

On saturday at 3;30AM you have no traffic and being on a tight time scedule I made "rolling" stops at intersections,well needless to say a new recruite for the MPs pulls me over for running a stop sign

I was alittle scared as I was not only going to be late I had never gotten a ticket.Well he steps to the back of my van and I here him call in my liscence and the guy on dispatch says It clean he then calls in the van plate and after a minute I here another voice on his radio say" Is that the Daylight Dounut man you got pulled over?" he replies "Yes Sir" then I here "Well let him go"

I learned a valuable lesson ,a box of dounuts buys alot of good will

[LarryFine]

I learned a valuable lesson ,a box of dounuts buys alot of good will
That story is full of holes!

[Fulthrotl]

I was alittle scared as I was not only going to be late I had never gotten a ticket.Well he steps to the back of my van and I here him call in my liscence and the guy on dispatch says It clean he then calls in the van plate and after a minute I here another voice on his radio say" Is that the Daylight Dounut man you got pulled over?" he replies "Yes Sir" then I here "Well let him go"

I learned a valuable lesson ,a box of dounuts buys alot of good will

wise advice.... when i was working on camp pendelton, the area i was working
was behind two guard shacks. the second guard shack had this poor guy
standing at attention outside a phone booth sized box, in the middle of nothing.
no shade, miserable hot in july.... so when i'd come back from jack in the box,
i'd bring him a large coke, and a burger couple times a week.... so he was
my buddy.....

i made the mistake of leaving my work van at home, and driving my 300 zx,
and just took the pass from one vehicle, and threw it on the dash of the
other vehicle, without updating pass and id.... :smile:

no problem, my buddy knew me.... until the day i drove up, and there was a
new guy at the booth.... he was dumber than a box of rocks, and got the
pass, and you could see his lips moving as he read the license plate....
then he took his M-16, pointed it at me, and called for the Sargent.....
and to make it worse, i'd left my briefcase, with my photo id and all my
papers and contact info, in the work van at home...

so here i am, with no photo id, fraudulent id for the vehicle, a case of tools,
behind one guard shack, stopped at another guard shack, in the live ordinance
storage area of the base.

at first, the sargent just wanted to impound my vehicle and everything in it,
and put me in the camp stockade, and let the camp commander sort it out
on monday, and this was thursday morning..... it wasn't a good day.

maybe i shoulda brought donuts as well......:D

[bradleyelectric]

In Pennsylvania there is no state license. There are parts of that state that require no license at all. ANYONE can pull a permit and do electric work.

Some of the larger cities have "local" licenses

Only till July 1. Than you will need a home improvement registration if working in a home.

http://forums.mikeholt.com/showthread.php?t=112235

[hardworkingstiff]

That story is full of holes!

About 12?... Maybe.

[jheeinc]

In NY some counties are going with a lic. That is great the problem is they do not want to reciprocate with each other

[bradleyelectric]

In NY some counties are going with a lic. That is great the problem is they do not want to reciprocate with each other

They need to agree on a common criteria for license and when you reciprocate they still collect their normal license fees.

[26Blackwatch]

Rewire

I am actually working in Fort Leanard Wood now.It is funny I do a bunch of federal work around the country.Most of them grumble when you tell them about the violations when your doing reno.In the past 3 yrs they have started bringing in third party inspectors.Good thing in my opinion.

You do not have to hold a card to do the fed work.But we try to get license in every state we are in just for mind sake.I am from PA which also does not require it.We hold are license in Reading and Harrisburg.And yes it makes it tough to make a good living when Ziek the amishmen can install panels.We compete against guys who will install a 200a system for 500 bucks.