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horsegoer
04-08-2009, 09:34 AM
Do they require and islolated ground or seperate neutral all the time?
Buck Parrish
04-08-2009, 09:37 AM
Gfci does not use an equipment ground. It requires a seperate neutral on the load side. In other words you can run a 12-3 to the box hit the line side of one kitchen gfci then on to the line side of an other gfci outlet.
iwire
04-08-2009, 09:37 AM
Do they require and islolated ground or seperate neutral all the time?
GFCIs never need any equipment grounding conductor.
You do need a dedicated neutral on the load side of a GFCI unless it is a multipole GFCI breaker and in that case the same neutral must be used for each pole.
augie47
04-08-2009, 09:39 AM
GFCIs never need any equipment grounding conductor.
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may I add the words "to function" :)
Rewire
04-08-2009, 09:40 AM
Need a little more information ,A GFCI Breaker requires a dedicated neutral you can use a common ground,A GFI receptacle the hot and neutral cannot be shared on the load side but can have a common ground.
Rewire
04-08-2009, 09:42 AM
GFCIs never need any equipment grounding conductor.
You do need a dedicated neutral on the load side of a GFCI unless it is a multipole GFCI breaker and in that case the same neutral must be used for each pole.
I will look again but I thought I saw on pools the GFI had to also have a EGC
iwire
04-08-2009, 09:42 AM
may I add the words "to function" :)
You certainly can and I agree that other parts of the code may require an EGC.
iwire
04-08-2009, 09:45 AM
I will look again but I thought I saw on pools the GFI had to also have a EGC
My answer was directed at the GFCI.
If I asked 'Does a 100 watt A-19 lamp require a ground' what would your answer be? :smile:
augie47
04-08-2009, 09:50 AM
My answer was directed at the GFCI.
I just didn't want someone to take that statement literally and run with it ... "mr inspector, I-wire said it didn't need a ground" :D
If I asked 'Does a 100 watt A-19 lamp require a ground' what would your answer be? :smile:
my answer would be that your age is showing,.... CFL !
GUNNING
04-08-2009, 09:50 AM
My thought is that if the EGC is there, hook it up. Otherwise, a GFCI is considered a Grounding Device by definition. As for pools 680.6 specifies GFCI 's are to be grounded.
iwire
04-08-2009, 09:51 AM
"mr inspector, I-wire said it didn't need a ground" :D
Anyone trying that gets what they deserve. :D
my answer would be that your age is showing,.... CFL !
OUCH! :D
iwire
04-08-2009, 09:54 AM
a GFCI is considered a Grounding Device by definition.
I have to disagree there, the code allows us to place a GFCI where no grounding means exists but 250.114 prevents plugging anything into that outlet that requires grounding.
LarryFine
04-08-2009, 02:16 PM
I will look again but I thought I saw on pools the GFI had to also have a EGCThe receptacle itself does, but not the functionality of the GFCI.
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