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StreamlineGT
05-14-2009, 11:19 PM
I am pondering replacing my van with an enclosed utility body on a truck chassis. What I would like to know is, who has which manufacturer, and the pros and cons of each. All makes and models welcome, including cutaways if you have them, as the truck mount equivilents are usually pretty similar. POST PICTURES TOO! Blur any logos and phone numbers if needed to comply with forum rules.

Here is what I have in mind. F-450 or 550 crew cab with a FRP body.

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l49/streamlineGT/PDV_Trademaster_Ford_7.jpg

I like the way this body is color coded, and believe it is by Utilimaster, but I have heard it is expensive to gel coat.
http://www.getauto.com/vehicledetail/adid-14317212

peter d
05-15-2009, 12:06 AM
That is a sweet rig! 8-)

However, if you do any work in the city or urban areas as I do (narrow driveways, lack of parking, etc) it would be an absolute nightmare for daily use.

StreamlineGT
05-15-2009, 12:12 AM
I'll just make sure there is a disclaimer on the contract or work order about the condition of the driveway, and a chainsaw in the truck to make quick work of low branches. That is my only worry.

PetrosA
05-15-2009, 12:29 AM
I guess my question is do you really need something THAT big? It's got to use a ton of fuel since it doesn't look particularly... umm aerodynamic... I'd also think about how often you need to get to extension ladders since one of the complaints I hear from guys with tall trucks is the difficulty involved with getting the ladders on/off and I don't think they make electric or crank racks for bodies like that.

resistance
05-15-2009, 01:51 AM
I'm not for large rigs either!! Before I started my company, I worked for a company that had--what I Call--a plumbers truck. It was a nightmare trying to park, or even drive up narrow streets. I was always on edge when I drove, and even more when the apprentice was driving.

Yet, only you know your situation, and taste!

Pullnwire
05-15-2009, 02:21 AM
I run a 2006 Chevy 2500HD. it has the Duramax diesel and in my opinion is much better on fuel compared to the Gas counterpart. I average 12.5 around town and got as good as 21.1 on a road trip in march. Oh, I can also do 85 up a 7%grade in 6th gear.
Here is the only pic of the body I have... My apprentice is sitting on the flip up bin. I have a crazy amount of material in this truck. It is all about organization and planning. Look up pics of fulthrottl's van and you'll see what I mean.

resistance
05-15-2009, 02:24 AM
I run a 2006 Chevy 2500HD. it has the Duramax diesel and in my opinion is much better on fuel compared to the Gas counterpart. I average 12.5 around town and got as good as 21.1 on a road trip in march. Oh, I can also do 85 up a 7%grade in 6th gear.
Here is the only pic of the body I have... My apprentice is sitting on the flip up bin. I have a crazy amount of material in this truck. It is all about organization and planning. Look up pics of fulthrottl's van and you'll see what I mean.
What picture????:confused:

Pullnwire
05-15-2009, 02:32 AM
Sorry, the pic is too big. Can't figure out how to shrink it.

MrMilbank
05-15-2009, 02:46 AM
I ride without ladders, or put ladders inside as often as possible. anything to cut down on drag on the highway. i have an astro van. just enough room to operate. that truck looks sweet and ive thought about going bigger. but its just gonna be more space to clean organize and potentially lose due to theft. plus the insurance cost on that might be higher then a standard truck/van, not sure tho. best of luck in the hunt for new work truck!

resistance
05-15-2009, 03:46 AM
I ride without ladders, or put ladders inside as often as possible. anything to cut down on drag on the highway. i have an astro van. just enough room to operate. that truck looks sweet and ive thought about going bigger. but its just gonna be more space to clean organize and potentially lose due to theft. plus the insurance cost on that might be higher then a standard truck/van, not sure tho. best of luck in the hunt for new work truck! Astro Van? Time to upgrade......if your income will allow it. Heck, I need a new van!

ultramegabob
05-15-2009, 04:31 AM
I am pondering replacing my van with an enclosed utility body on a truck chassis. What I would like to know is, who has which manufacturer, and the pros and cons of each. All makes and models welcome, including cutaways if you have them, as the truck mount equivilents are usually pretty similar. POST PICTURES TOO! Blur any logos and phone numbers if needed to comply with forum rules.

Here is what I have in mind. F-450 or 550 crew cab with a FRP body.

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l49/streamlineGT/PDV_Trademaster_Ford_7.jpg

I like the way this body is color coded, and believe it is by Utilimaster, but I have heard it is expensive to gel coat.
http://www.getauto.com/vehicledetail/adid-14317212

what type of electrical work do you do for the most part? how many guys do you typically haul in a vehicle at a time? that truck is definitely impressive, but do you need that much rig?

electricmanscott
05-15-2009, 08:53 AM
http://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gallery/sizeimage.php?&photoid=178336&.jpg

http://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gallery/sizeimage.php?&photoid=178335&.jpg

http://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gallery/sizeimage.php?&photoid=178337&.jpg

jrannis
05-15-2009, 08:59 AM
I have a Knapheide KUV.
Im really happy with it. Its built on a Chevy 3500 with a Duramax 6.6 Diesel.
I get between 14 and 16 MPG.

http://www.knapheide.com/products/utilityvans/kuv/default.asp?selection=products&type=utilityvans

CopperTone
05-15-2009, 09:19 AM
I have a ford E250 van. I have been pondering a new 2nd truck to put on the road and I think I'll be going with another van. It is very cost effective. Vans are cheap - get the racks for inside.

I don't see the extra 10K or more for a "cool" truck as being worth it.

electricmanscott
05-15-2009, 09:35 AM
I don't see the extra 10K or more for a "cool" truck as being worth it.

Having had both, (van & Utility body) to me it is more than worth it. The 4 wheel drive alone is worth the extra dough.

ptonsparky
05-15-2009, 09:35 AM
Recently bought a small topped version of Scott's Ford. Not near as pretty and it has low end mirrors. Just counting the days until I back into someone or I don't see someone in the passenger side blind spot. My basically empty Ford weighs in @ 7000lbs while my fully loaded Chevy with no top weighs 8000.

Nothing wrong with the Astro, I have a Montanna mini van that has served me very well and gets around alot better than any of the 4WD I have @ 26mpg vs 10-13.

StreamlineGT
05-15-2009, 09:51 AM
Here are my reasons for wanting something like this.

1. 4 wheel drive. If I get to a new home, and the contractor hasn't had the driveway cleared of snow, it's not productive to walk to the end of the driveway to get stuff, or not work there that day. I'd rather stay and work and be productive.

2. Crew cab. I do a good amount of work on the weekends at either my family's house at the ocean, or my in-laws across the state. I like to take the fam and the dog. Instead of taking two vehicles, or trying to remember everything I need to work, and throw it in the car, I can take em all and not have to worry.

3. Towing. I sometimes haul my backhoe to jobs, and now transport with my pickup, do whatever have to do, then go back to get the van to finish up. Rather just get it done in one shot.

4. Consolidate. I have a van and a pickup now. Rather than pay for two older vehicles, roll them all into one do all.

5. Since I own the place, and would like to think I am at the higher end in terms of quality and service, I want the best. Just my nature. Certainly not something I would buy a fleet of, but being a one man show in a wealthier suburb, I want to keep that image. If that came out wrong, I apologize. I am not a snob, just like nice things, especially when I am in it 7 days a week.

MrMilbank
05-15-2009, 10:51 AM
scott whats the make/model of your utility body?

djwilson16
05-15-2009, 11:00 AM
http://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gallery/sizeimage.php?&photoid=178336&.jpg

http://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gallery/sizeimage.php?&photoid=178335&.jpg

http://www.ford-trucks.com/user_gallery/sizeimage.php?&photoid=178337&.jpg

Scott, that's pretty much the exact rig I want. I'm working on upgrading to that, but those aren't cheap!

acwservices
05-15-2009, 03:55 PM
I have a ford E250 van. I have been pondering a new 2nd truck to put on the road and I think I'll be going with another van. It is very cost effective. Vans are cheap - get the racks for inside.

I don't see the extra 10K or more for a "cool" truck as being worth it.

How is the noise inside todays service vans? It's been a number of years since I worked out of a van, but the last time I did, I could not seem to turn the radio loud enough to drown out all of the squeaking and rattling going on in the back.

hillbilly1
05-15-2009, 04:34 PM
I never have liked the noise that the vans make, especially going around curves something always rattles or slides. Gets on my nerves! I've had everything from a Nissan pickup with side boxes, to full size 3/4 ton vans, to F350 dually diesel utility trucks. The one that has worked the best for me was an F-250 gas burner with a 8' utility bed. I also had one that was four wheel drive, but it was hard to work out of, due to the height of the bins. Can't see where anything is at without feeling around.

220/221
05-15-2009, 04:47 PM
You will get 4 times the room in a box van AND you get a rolling billboard.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a8/JohnC1952/DSC01001-1.jpg

StreamlineGT
05-15-2009, 10:04 PM
I'd also think about how often you need to get to extension ladders since one of the complaints I hear from guys with tall trucks is the difficulty involved with getting the ladders on/off and I don't think they make electric or crank racks for bodies like that.

I though of this, and with the "attic", hopefully I can mount the extension ladder on the ceiling inside. I don't use it that much.

I'm not for large rigs either!! Before I started my company, I worked for a company that had--what I Call--a plumbers truck. It was a nightmare trying to park, or even drive up narrow streets. I was always on edge when I drove, and even more when the apprentice was driving.

Yet, only you know your situation, and taste!

I used to be a full time wrecker driver, so this will be the same as driving an international flatbed in the city.

what type of electrical work do you do for the most part? how many guys do you typically haul in a vehicle at a time? that truck is definitely impressive, but do you need that much rig?

I mainly do new resi, additions and remodels lately. I have my share of service, but not a majority of my business.... lately that is. There was a time when I did all service and small installs, but it seems those days have gone for now.

You will get 4 times the room in a box van AND you get a rolling billboard.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a8/JohnC1952/DSC01001-1.jpg


I though about this as well, but I can't get over the look. i like the billboard idea, but I also think that outfitting a box truck will be labor intensive if I want to make it just right. I think I will be comfortable with the utilty style.... I think.

Thanks for the replies. Nice truck Mr. Stevens. I contemplated a steel body, and still haven't ruled it out. From what I hear, the FRP bodies are more expensive, even more than aluminum bodies, and FRP is a little heavier. I still haven't made up my mind, and am not fully convinced I want to yet, but I want to make the decision before the van quits.

MrMilbank
05-16-2009, 04:28 AM
being able to stand up in a box truck and work like a human would make me never want to be on the jobsite. my guys would be hanging out in the truck playing find the screws for too long comfortably.

electricmanscott
05-16-2009, 02:46 PM
scott whats the make/model of your utility body?

Thats a Knapheide body. Not sure of the make.

I would strongly suggest getting the power door lock option. One button to lock and unlock all the compartment doors.

active1
05-16-2009, 05:23 PM
I would guess a 2wd gas version of that truck would get 10-12 MPG. And a 4wd would get 8-10 mpg. Fuel is cheaper now but it didn't take long for it to go to $4.50 a gallon. I would say fuel prices will not get any cheaper.

Something elce to remember is weight limits for local residential streets in areas your drive. Some places I've been have a limit of 4-5 tons. Load that truck up and I would guess your weight at 5-6 tons.

If you do resi service it could be too big to park it. We had problems where our truck was too long in the driveway blocking the sidewalk. Never had to pay a fine but got warnings of called to move the truck.

A loaded down duley gets pretty good traction. If you could get limited slip in the back and you would be good to go. Most 4wd provide power to the rear and only 1 front wheel that has the least traction. If the rear is not a limited slip then only 1 rear wheel with the least traction spins also on 4wd.