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gbuschling
02-17-2010, 02:58 PM
Can a light be installed in a shower that will also have a steam generator?
Are there any special requirements for outlets above a hot water baseboard heat.
Is a Hot Water tank considered a continuous load?
infinity
02-17-2010, 03:25 PM
I would say:
yes,no,yes.
raider1
02-17-2010, 03:29 PM
I would say:
yes,no,yes.
And I would agree.:)
Chris
rodneee
02-17-2010, 04:05 PM
i say.... yes- no- yes.... but allow 1 hour on the phone with the inspector to find the code section for different requirements of hot water baseboard heat and electric baseboard heat.
infinity
02-17-2010, 04:07 PM
i say.... yes- no- yes.... but allow 1 hour on the phone with the inspector to find the code section for different requirements of hot water baseboard heat and electric baseboard heat.
There is no NEC code section for either, so I'm assuming that's why the phone call will take an hour. :)
raider1
02-17-2010, 04:10 PM
There is no NEC code section for either, so I'm assuming that's why the phone call will take an hour. :)
:D:D:D
Chris
N844AA
02-17-2010, 04:11 PM
Is a hot water tank really a continuous load? I don't have much experience with these but are the heating elements really energized continuously for 3 or more hours at a time?
This surprises me.
infinity
02-17-2010, 04:15 PM
Is a hot water tank really a continuous load? I don't have much experience with these but are the heating elements really energized continuously for 3 or more hours at a time?
This surprises me.
Yup, take a look at 422.13.
Dennis Alwon
02-17-2010, 04:16 PM
Is a hot water tank really a continuous load? I don't have much experience with these but are the heating elements really energized continuously for 3 or more hours at a time?
This surprises me.
I would agree with you but
422.13 Storage-Type Water Heaters.
A fixed storage-type water heater that has a capacity of 450 L (120 gal) or less shall be considered a continuous load for the purposes of sizing branch circuits.
LarryFine
02-17-2010, 04:31 PM
I would say:
yes,no,yes.Agreed, agreed, agreed. :grin:
N844AA
02-17-2010, 04:33 PM
Yup, take a look at 422.13.
Thank you very much!
Smart $
02-17-2010, 04:33 PM
I would agree with you but...
...and I would say the answer is both yes and no. Yes, continuous [conditionally, I might add] in regards to branch circuit sizing, but no for Article 220 calculations.
Is a hot water tank really a continuous load? I don't have much experience with these but are the heating elements really energized continuously for 3 or more hours at a time?
This surprises me.
As i was reading this thread, I was wondering the same thing until it was clairified.
yes-no-yes here too.
Dennis Alwon
02-17-2010, 07:23 PM
...and I would say the answer is both yes and no. Yes, continuous [conditionally, I might add] in regards to branch circuit sizing, but no for Article 220 calculations.
Article 422.13 states for branch circuits. I agree no for calculations in art. 220.
gbuschling
02-17-2010, 09:20 PM
Thanks to everyone.
brichter
02-18-2010, 08:14 AM
Where can I find the prohbition for receps above hot water baseboard heat?
LarryFine
02-18-2010, 09:00 AM
Where can I find the prohbition for receps above hot water baseboard heat?In the instructions that come with the heater.
brichter
02-18-2010, 09:45 AM
Sorry, read the OP and the answer incorrectly.
mtfallsmikey
02-18-2010, 11:06 AM
In the instructions that come with the heater.
As far as I know or remember, none of the HWBB we ever installed (Slant-Fin, Continental brands )ever had recommendations/specs for minimum spacing between the BB and receptacles. The water temps in BB can range between 130-180. As far as steam generators are concerned, we made sure that either we or the EC installed some type of sealed recessed light, not sure of what NEC would require.
Smart $
02-18-2010, 12:10 PM
...not sure of what NEC would require.
A wet-location-rated fixture in a shower.
G0049
02-18-2010, 12:48 PM
Is a hot water tank really a continuous load? I don't have much experience with these but are the heating elements really energized continuously for 3 or more hours at a time?
This surprises me.
I've raised 4 daughters. Any 2 of them could keep the heater going that long.:mad:
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