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cdslotz
01-11-2007, 12:06 PM
We had a lunch-and-learn yesterday with the local Southwire rep. He had a slideshow and samples of the new "AP" products. They have Ac, MC, HCFC cables that eliminate the green ground. Each cable assembly has an aluminum #10 ground wire running inside the cable that stays in contact with the armour, thus making it unnessecary to terminate the ground in the box. You just clip the ground prior to connectorizing the cable. No more red-devils. No more green wire nuts or terminating to the box. You must use an approved connector, box and self-grounding devices.
Here's a link:

http://www.southwire.com/processGetPage.do?bp=featuredProduct.jsp

I can see where inspectors would immediately reject this upon first glance, but they are approved. Some cities reject the use because of the alum ground if they do not allow ANY alum in my jurisdiction.
Any thoughts or comments?

don_resqcapt19
01-11-2007, 02:30 PM
HCFC cables that eliminate the green ground.
Can't do that for cables used in 517.13 applications. An insulated EGC is required for that application, in addition to the sheath being suitable for use as an EGC.
don

cdslotz
01-11-2007, 02:44 PM
Can't do that for cables used in 517.13 applications. An insulated EGC is required for that application, in addition to the sheath being suitable for use as an EGC.
don

Then what's this?

http://www.southwire.com/processGetPage.do?bp=featuredProduct.jsp

cdslotz
01-11-2007, 02:46 PM
You are correct don. I looked at the product data and the HCF still has the full green ground. Nothing is really new about the HCF-AP except the alum supplimental ground is a #10.