SimPull Romex-Anyone Have Experience?

[cdslotz]

Since I posted on the new MC cable, I also learned from the lunch-and-learn with Southwire, about this new Romex called "SimPull". It's supposed to be slick. So slick, that it claims to take 50% of effort to pull, 50% less time to install!

Link: http://www.romexsimpull.com/welcome.jsp

Any experiences?

I guess you resi guys can lower your prices, right?

[allenwayne]

Havent had a chance to try it out yet but i did see it on there web site not to long ago and from what i read it makes pulling wire alot easier.Not sure if the price will off set the labor factor ???

[edamico11]

I have used this product and found the following. When you pull cable from a cable reel the cable comes off clean, (with no twists) if you are reasonably careful you can pull straight cable in almost any situation. When I used the simpull, the cable came out easy enough, but still with a circular memory to it. If you are really careful you can wield it, but you have to look after it much more then the cable reel. I kinked it twice before I got the hang of it, then proceeded to do it twice more, before going back to the cable reel. I say leave it for the DIY guy, or for the job 100' or less.

simpull yea right.... :smile:

[peter d]

I'm guessing you don't do much residential work because the "Simpull" Romex has been around for at least 2 or more years now. It's all Home Depot and Lowes sell, and many suppliers in my area have it.

To answer your question, I prefer using it over the other brands. It lives up to its name and it does pull much easier.

There is one other brand, "Cirtex" that has copied the "slick jacket" idea and put it in their own NM cable.

[cdslotz]

I havn't done resi in many, many years, but I wired my share of houses coming up.
Is the SimPull the same price as other brands?

[mdshunk]

I havn't done resi in many, many years, but I wired my share of houses coming up.
Is the SimPull the same price as other brands?Yes, it's the same price. When I order NM cable now, that's what they send without me asking. Everyone will have something similar now. The cable does pull easier, but I find that the jacket does tear easier than regular NM if it does get snagged on a splinter or something like that.

[infinity]

It does pull easier but the jacket is prone to tearing if you're not careful. The jacket seems so flimsy that it's like THHN with a paper jacket.;)

[stickboy1375]

If you drill your holes in a straight line I don't see the reason for this Sim pull stuff... 8-)

[mdshunk]

If you drill your holes in a straight line I don't see the reason for this Sim pull stuff... 8-)Well, that always helps. If you install more than one cable per hole, the new slick jacket helps a lot. The regular stuff seems to "stick" when you're pulling one cable past another. The new stuff slides really easily along another cable.

[George Stolz]

I used it and came to prefer it. When I got used to slick cable and went back to the dry stuff, I learned how much more I preferred the slick stuff. :)

[j_erickson]

I've used lots of it, and it makes no difference to me.

[stickboy1375]

Well, that always helps. If you install more than one cable per hole, the new slick jacket helps a lot. The regular stuff seems to "stick" when you're pulling one cable past another. The new stuff slides really easily along another cable.

Never really noticed a difference except the new wire for some reason really dries my hands out... so now I'm like a girl with my hand lotion... 8-)

[mdshunk]

Never really noticed a difference except the new wire for some reason really dries my hands out... Never really noticed that, myself. I do pretty good mix of all wiring methods, so it seems to average out, I guess. If I did all NM for a couple of days, I might be doing MC for the next couple to "relubricate" my hands. :smile:

[JohnJ0906]

Has anyone noticed whether or not the jacket seems harder to strip? It seems that way to me.

[mdshunk]

Has anyone noticed whether or not the jacket seems harder to strip? It seems that way to me.I havn't noticed. I started in the trade when the jacket was much tougher than it is now, so anything nowadays is gravy.

[stickboy1375]

http://www.service.kleintools.com/Marketing/Catalog_Imagery/1412_ICON.JPG

I've been using these for so long, couldn't tell you if RX is hard to strip...:)

[mdshunk]

http://www.service.kleintools.com/Marketing/Catalog_Imagery/1412_ICON.JPG

I've been using these for so long, couldn't tell you if RX is hard to strip...:)Do they work well? I've never used a pair. I assume that you'd have to skin the jacket before you stuck the cable in the box. Is that so? My usual custom is to skin NM jacket after it's already in the box. That's sorta backwards compared to how many guys are taught, I know.

[stickboy1375]

I love 'em, They don't work on 3 conductor, only 14-2 and 12-2. And they make another set for 10-2, I always strip before putting the wire in the box then staple back so my wire waste is minimal... but only my opinion... They are tough to insert into a box but I have done it....

[LarryFine]

Do they work well? Yes, to me, they do. I love 'em, They don't work on 3 conductor, only 14-2 and 12-2. They do, however, work suprisingly well on UF.

One word of warning: don't cut anything larger or harder, or you'll curl the cutting edges.


Oh, and I always strip cable before inserting into boxes.

[cdslotz]

Haha, I didn't know there was such a tool. But's it's been a long time since I worked with my tools. I came up using one of these:

http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thumbview_approve/499575/2/istockphoto_499575_red_box_cutter.jpg

I've still got a scar on my left thumb from my first day on the job, oh.... 35 years ago. We were using aluminum romex and even copper-clad in those days.

[bkludecke]

Most of my guys run the nm into the box & then "cut up" later w/ a razor knife. It works well for them but when I roughed-in I always removed the sheath 1st for reasons already stated. I see no problem w/ either method.

[stickboy1375]

Yes, to me, they do. They do, however, work suprisingly well on UF.

One word of warning: don't cut anything larger or harder, or you'll curl the cutting edges.


Oh, and I always strip cable before inserting into boxes.


I use them on UF also... :smile:

[donselectric]

yea it doesnt friction melt as much as the thermo stuff

[jack horner]

NO, I have not ever used this stuff. The work I do requires conduit sytems only.

[macmikeman]

I work blazingly fast. One reason is using a little bit of yellow 77 while installing the romex. Just a little speeds things up a whole lot, and makes even the slick romex go even better. The romex strippers in the picture are the best way to go for speed.