Interesting switch installation photo

[mark32]

This weekend I went to a wedding that took place on a large piece of land where an old mansion sits. At one point I was given a tour and noticed that some areas were being renovated. At first I only noticed this switch because it was so close to the molding for the door, then I realized that the installer had carved the opening directly into a wooden beam of some sort. Normally I don't carry my camera but because of the event I had it with me in my sports jacket, just wanted to share. By the way, this pic was much larger but I had to crop it considerably in order to upload it.

[jaylectricity]

Good ole wooden switch boxes. I thought they stopped making those in like 1787. Haha.

At least they didn't have to bond the box since there doesn't appear to be any ground wire.

Ever see the picture of the "floating receptacle" for pool use? It's a dish soap bottle that has a duplex receptacle installed in it that floats, with an extension cord. You know, in case you need to use the blender while you're sipping drinks on your flotation device on a 95 degree day.

[bphgravity]

I can't seem to open your link?

[Dennis Alwon]

Here is the picture for you

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[jaylectricity]

Can anyone help me find that soap bottle receptacle?

[LarryFine]

Good ole wooden switch boxes.And it's not even grounded! :mad: Where's the green wood screw?

[al hildenbrand]

And it's not even grounded! :mad: Where's the green wood screw?:grin:
That's a "non-metallic" enclosure. . .no need to bond!

The installer just overlooked the switch yoke bond.

:smile:

[Dennis Alwon]

Are those mounting screws listed for that device???

[cowboyjwc]

Jay, try Joe Tedesco's web site. I think that is where I got it from.

[jaylectricity]

At least they didn't have to bond the box since there doesn't appear to be any ground wire.


There are people right now looking for the code article that states wooden switchboxes don't require bonding.:confused: :grin: :) :wink: :roll: 8-)

[Sierrasparky]

Why waste money for the box.

I've seen guys carve out a two gang NM type box in a post leaving only about a inch of wood in a 4x4 on the first floor of a 2 atory house...

Once thast plate is on who can see...

[electricguy]

Can anyone help me find that soap bottle receptacle?
This is on a power point presentation

http://www.nachi.org/documents/joetedescoppt2007.ppt

[jaylectricity]

ok here it is

http://www.elec-toolbox.com/Pics/Soapbottle.jpg

There's others, but this is the idea.

[hardworkingstiff]

ok here it is

http://www.elec-toolbox.com/Pics/Soapbottle.jpg

There's others, but this is the idea.

Doesn't that need to be a GFCI?

[Sierrasparky]

what about a wet location cover

[mark32]

Now that's ingenuity for you. I like how the cord passes through the cap, almost like a cord grip, almost.

[jaylectricity]

Now that's ingenuity for you. I like how the cord passes through the cap, almost like a cord grip, almost.

That or a buttload of duct seal.

[LawnGuyLandSparky]

Here is the picture for you

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Clearly, this goes against the grain of everything I have learned.

[Dennis Alwon]

Clearly, this goes against the grain of everything I have learned.


That was Punny..

[LarryFine]

That was Punny..So is:

That electrician certainly has carved out a niche for himself. :rolleyes:

[Pierre C Belarge]

I do not understand why this installation 'wooden' be okay. ;)

[Dennis Alwon]

I do not understand why this installation 'wooden' be okay. ;)

Because the installers decision to do this was "groundless".

[LarryFine]

Anybody who would do this kind of work must be a chisler.

[1793]

That was Punny..

That was 2/3s of a PUN --- "PU"

[clayton]

in joes powerpoint, can someone pls explain the illegal meter tap?

[al hildenbrand]

in joes powerpoint, can someone pls explain the illegal meter tap?As I look at the meter bases in the photo, I want to assume that the left meter base is a 200 amp internal bypass unit. I want to assume that its lugs are rated for only one conductor each, and the tap conductors leading to the right hand meter base have been "double lugged" in the left hand meter base.

Off course, we can't tell.

[Mike03a3]

. . . the installer had carved the opening directly into a wooden beam of some sort.


This is excellent information. SWMBO has requested a receptacle in one of the porch columns. I now realize I have wasted a lot of time trying to find a nice weatherproof box that could be installed in the column and leave a nice, flush, duplex GFCI.

Armed with this useful example, I realize I can just cut a rectangular hole in the hollow column and be done with it.

[yanici]

Here's a couple of photos of wooden type wiremold used in the early 20th century with K&T for surface wiring.

http://i14.tinypic.com/40pd4pz.jpg

http://i12.tinypic.com/2sbv236.jpg

The top photo shows the wire installed before the cover is put on. The bottom photo shows the completed job.

So, maybe that switch routed into the post is really just a touch of nostalgia.:rolleyes: