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-=PEAKABOO=-
08-09-2007, 04:28 AM
What or how much more do you guys charge for an after hours (1:30 am) service call??

GUNNING
08-09-2007, 05:37 AM
Same as regular rate. I figure if they are calling at 1:30 am, they must really need an electrician.

LarryFine
08-09-2007, 08:10 AM
Double-time, baby!

360Youth
08-09-2007, 08:16 AM
If someone has a true 1:30 am emergency, I would probably go easier on them than the one that insists you come out for a job that could wait. The best thing to do is let them know ahead of time that you are coming out at emergency rates. If they say, "I don't care, we need some one now," they'll pay. If they say, "Well, what are your rates?," it'll probably wait. :rolleyes: I got a call after hours the other day from an elderly customer who has had one of our generators for a few years because she saw some wires sticking up near hear propane tank and is scared of a fire. I assured her someone would be there that evening. I was tied up another job so I called my boss. He called me about 30 minutes later. The problem...2 pine needles.

480sparky
08-09-2007, 09:34 AM
My regular rate applies, but I make sure they really need me before I head out. Having your overhead service ripped off your house by a tree or wind storm is one thing. One dead receptacle in the whole house isn't an emergency. I find it amazing how many people think their microwave has to be working at 2:00AM.

360Youth
08-09-2007, 09:45 AM
I find it amazing how many people think their microwave has to be working at 2:00AM.


They'll wish they went out for a 7-11 chilli-cheese dog by the time I finished billing 'em. :D

ITO
08-09-2007, 09:45 AM
For existing clients and folks that I did the original install, its time and a half, invoiced net 30.

For everyone else, its double time and they have to pay at time of service.

My service manager has the authority to refuse service to anyone he wants, the decision is up to him; he and his crew wears the phone 24/7, it’s up to them if they take the call. Its hard enough finding good service men, and take care of the ones I’ve got.

This type of service is not my bread and butter and I could not care less if we did it at all, but I do like to take care of my clients we did the original install on; you don’t want some yahoo in there telling your client everything they think you did wrong.

aline
08-09-2007, 11:29 AM
Materials = Regular Price
Labor = 1.5 X Regular Price

Some people work nights.
1:30 am is the middle of the day for them.
If the price is the same they won't have a problem calling you at that time for any little problem they may have.
A lot of my customer's want me to work after 5:00 pm or on saturdays so they don't have to take off from work.
If they had their way all my work would be done nights and weekends.

Maybe I could call my company "After Hours Electric" and have my normal operating hours nights and weekends and charge more for service during the day. :)

mattsilkwood
08-09-2007, 06:12 PM
after 4 pm time 1/2 after 6 double time saturdays and sundays double time, after hours on a weekend we dont even want to go there.

mdshunk
08-09-2007, 06:41 PM
Time and a half after hours, double time on Sundays or holidays. Clock starts ticking when the key turns in the truck on an after hours call.

Some things that people think are emergencies aren't really. With a bit of phone assistance, you can often get them in a situation where they can wait until morning or Monday if it's over a weekend. It's a qulaity of life issue for me. :grin:

brian john
08-09-2007, 06:49 PM
After hour emergency calls are double time minimum 4 hours, portal to portal. My employees and myself work way too many hours not to get extra for our services after hours.

mdshunk
08-09-2007, 06:51 PM
I always make clear on the phone what the after hours rate is, and how it works. It's amazing how many emergencies can wait until morning when you lay it all out.

celtic
08-09-2007, 08:59 PM
Same as regular rate. I figure if they are calling at 1:30 am, they must really need an electrician.

A lot of my customer's want me to work after 5:00 pm or on saturdays so they don't have to take off from work.


So then they make their regular salary AND spend time with their family( or goofing off on the internet)?

How are you compensated for missing the family time?
The comfort in knowing you have satisfied a customer??
:confused:

7 - 4 ST
4 - 11 Time and a half
11 - 7 Double Time

Saturday... time and a half until 4, then double time
Sunday ...double time
Holidays...triple time and maybe MORE


I put high value of my family time and those that work for me (and are wiling to come in) should also be compensated.

360Youth
08-09-2007, 10:45 PM
So then they make their regular salary AND spend time with their family( or goofing off on the internet)?

How do you know that they are not posting valuable occupational information??:D

celtic
08-09-2007, 10:59 PM
How do you know that they are not posting valuable occupational information??:D

The internet is just a fad .....:rolleyes:

jaylectricity
08-09-2007, 11:10 PM
This type of service is not my bread and butter and I could not care less if we did it at all, but I do like to take care of my clients we did the original install on; you don’t want some yahoo in there telling your client everything they think you did wrong.

Throughout my electrician career almost anytime an electrician sees the previous electrician's work he can pick it apart. Hell, I can do it too.

I go the honest route but you certainly don't need some other electrician who has different ideas telling the homeowner that your ideas are wrong.

jaylectricity
08-09-2007, 11:12 PM
Maybe I could call my company "After Hours Electric" and have my normal operating hours nights and weekends and charge more for service during the day. :)

That is one great idea. Just need the right clientele and advertising and you might just make it work. I know you are joking and aren't planning on doing it, but there is probably somebody out there that could do this.

kbsparky
08-09-2007, 11:23 PM
I stopped advertising "24 hour service" years ago. I used to get calls from tenants who could not reach their landlords, and wanted me to "bill the landlord" for the repair. Of course, the landlord would not approve such invoices for payment. And the tenant was not willing to pay at time of service, so I got woke up for nothing..:mad:

Most of those calls were not emergency in nature, but stupid stuff, like tripped GFI's or breakers, or appliances that were on the fritz.

A few times we did get legitimate calls from storm damage, or burned out mains in poultry houses. Those were usually billed out at double time rates.

Our regular customers can still call in at 2 AM, but know that we don't come out for cheap at those hours.... 8-)

satcom
08-09-2007, 11:27 PM
That is one great idea. Just need the right clientele and advertising and you might just make it work. I know you are joking and aren't planning on doing it, but there is probably somebody out there that could do this.

He better take a lot of family pictures before he starts!

But it would be a great idea, for someone that wants no part of family life.

macmikeman
08-10-2007, 12:27 AM
Renters are no problem to me any more. If they don't have a credit card for me to process, have the landord call me direct before I head out from the shop.

brian john
08-10-2007, 08:19 AM
Throughout my electrician career almost anytime an electrician sees the previous electrician's work he can pick it apart. Hell, I can do it too.

Johnny Carson once said in his nightly monologue. "I am having my house remodeled, the electrician came out took the panel cover off and stood there shaking his head, I asked "What" He said " I have never seen a mess quite like this in all my 30 years." Johnny responded "you installed it last year"

Off hours work is part of by companies forte, it is expected, several of my men make more in overtime then they do from their 40 hour paycheck. Just part of the business.

kkwong
08-10-2007, 11:46 AM
For us anything after 1700 to 2200 is time and a half, sundays/holidays and from 2200-0655 (don't ask about the time, i don't know) is double time both have a three hour minimum from time we start the truck. like most companies materials is a static price, cost plus 10% give or take.

I have heard of companies charging triple time for sundays and holidays with a five hour minimum. I guess it all depends on the status of your company and how desperate the customer is.

jaylectricity
08-10-2007, 11:28 PM
He better take a lot of family pictures before he starts!

But it would be a great idea, for someone that wants no part of family life.

Yeah, that's exactly what I meant. Someone who didn't mind being up all night in the peace and quiet. Someone who wasn't looking for a 40 hour a week job. Someone who only had himself to support.

LarryFine
08-11-2007, 12:04 AM
"Does this green wire mean it's hot?"
No, it's envious.

dab
08-12-2007, 03:36 AM
for a client that requested work during normal work hours and i get there late sue to my taking care of something that delayed me, i charge regular rate. this only applies to me. when i have an employee it will have to be ot to cover costs.

iwire
08-12-2007, 04:33 AM
Time and a half after hours, double time on Sundays or holidays. Clock starts ticking when the key turns in the truck on an after hours call.

That is pretty much how the companies I have worked for bill out along with a 4 hour minimum for emergency calls.

kkwong
08-13-2007, 11:35 AM
No, it's envious.

envious of the black or red? can't be blue 'cause then it would be cold ;)

tmbrk
08-15-2007, 05:15 PM
Had an emergency service call last Sunday. HO said the storm we had the night before had brought down his overhead service(100-amp). He asked me how much, I said I had to see the extent of the damage. Got there and found riser pulled away from house. Broken meter hub, cracked meter block, broken weather head, fried service conductors in rigid pipe. I gave him a price and he was appalled. He said he was a residential contractor and would've had his electrician fix it but couldn't get ahold of him. He said " I build houses and I know this is only about $200 worth of parts so I'm not paying more than $300.00 for the entire install." I asked him if that is what his guy would charge, he said yes. I told him your guys an idiot, thanks for waisting my time and went on my way. Ten minutes down the road he called me and said he would consider $400.00. I hung up on him and turned off my phone.

satcom
08-15-2007, 05:27 PM
He said he was a residential contractor and would've had his electrician fix it but couldn't get ahold of him. He said " I build houses and I know this is only about $200 worth of parts so I'm not paying more than $300.00 for the entire install." I asked him if that is what his guy would charge, he said yes. I told him your guys an idiot, thanks for waisting my time and went on my way. Ten minutes down the road he called me and said he would consider $400.00. I hung up on him and turned off my phone.

If he was a residential contractor, he would know the cost of providing services, and should of been, more then pleased with you responding.

celtic
08-15-2007, 05:46 PM
I told him your guys an idiot, ...

LMAO

Good for you!

I wonder where "his" guy was? ;)
LOL

480sparky
08-15-2007, 06:23 PM
LMAO

Good for you!

I wonder where "his" guy was? ;)
LOL

I he can do a 100 OH service for two c-notes, he's probably at the grocery store stocking up on ramen noodles.

celtic
08-15-2007, 06:34 PM
I he can do a 100 OH service for two c-notes, he's probably at the grocery store stocking up on ramen noodles.

LOL....Ramen noodles are even cheaper than Mac & Cheese!

But that's ok, there is so much sodium in the ramen his heart will explode and he'll be out of the game anyway.