Single Receptacles

[megawatt]

Not sure if anyone has noticed this before....I was picking up some truck stock @ Big Blue the other day, and noticed that there weren't any single receptacles to be found. Not even empty boxes ?
I found the "Electrical Pro" & had to ask.....He said a notice came down from Corp Office saying to pull them all ?
Anybody seen this, or know why ?

[Bob Kraemer]

Probably because of low sales volume. Things that don't sell take up space for other items that do.

[lpelectric]

Probably because of low sales volume. Things that don't sell take up space for other items that do.

I agree. Low sales volume and too many installers using duplex receptacles for the washing machine and the garage door opener...:D

[iwire]

too many installers using duplex receptacles for the washing machine and the garage door opener...

Which is perfectly NEC compliant. :smile:

[bradleyelectric]

Which is perfectly NEC compliant. :smile:

The laundry outlet can double as a place to plug in the iron.

As a note, orange still carries them, picked 1 up there today.

[iwire]

The laundry outlet can double as a place to plug in the iron.

If the dryer is not already plugged in there. :smile: ....gas dryer.

[haskindm]

With the GFCI changes for basements and garages in 2008 there will be even less demand for single outlets. They will still need GFCI protection even if they are for dedicated appliances, so may as well install a duplex. Single receptacles may become hard to find...

[satcom]

I agree. Low sales volume and too many installers using duplex receptacles for the washing machine and the garage door opener...:D

We buy the single receptacles, from our electrical supply house, they always have plenty in stock, and the way half the price or less as we do with everything else we get from our local supply house, only deal we get from box stores is some PVC and some wire, everything else is marked way up, I take it not too many of the guys track what they spend at the box stores or they would see it's expensive to buy anything but a few fast sellers there.

[Rewire]

We buy the single receptacles, from our electrical supply house, they always have plenty in stock, and the way half the price or less as we do with everything else we get from our local supply house, only deal we get from box stores is some PVC and some wire, everything else is marked way up, I take it not too many of the guys track what they spend at the box stores or they would see it's expensive to buy anything but a few fast sellers there.
I buy one item from the box store take it to my jobber and tell them to beat the price,90% of the time they meet or beat it sometimes much less..Wire is an issue but I buy in bulk and they get close.

[frenchelectrican]

I keep few singleplex both 120 v and 240v verison on hand and some big box store dont even bother to stock it.

few years back one big box store send me a note and want to know if i can buy a shelf full of singleplexs i say sure they asked me what the price i say a cent each and they say sure no problem at all sold me the whole shelf full of it. i think it was about 80 or so.

end up got a heckva a deal with it and used them up in about 3 month flat.

Merci, Marc

[dSilanskas]

I work in Massachusetts and Granite City Electric is still carrying them. They are not pulling them either :D

[wbalsam1]

Which is perfectly NEC compliant. :smile:

Just out of curiosity, why would any one install a duplex for a garage door motor? Is it just because there's usually lots of duplex receptacles on the truck...or are they cheaper than single recept's? ...or some other reason?

Wouldn't installing a duplex invite someone to plug something else in that would be better served by a GFCI-protected receptacle in the garage? :smile:

[stickboy1375]

Just out of curiosity, why would any one install a duplex for a garage door motor? Is it just because there's usually lots of duplex receptacles on the truck...or are they cheaper than single recept's? ...or some other reason?

Wouldn't installing a duplex invite someone to plug something else in that would be better served by a GFCI-protected receptacle in the garage? :smile:


And? Thats why the garage requires at least 1 receptacle, not including the OH doors, a HO is more likely to use that receptacle than get a ladder and plug a extension cord into a ceiling receptacle...

And if your worried about it, GFI the garage OH receptacles...

[Davis9]

Just out of curiosity, why would any one install a duplex for a garage door motor? Is it just because there's usually lots of duplex receptacles on the truck...or are they cheaper than single recept's? ...or some other reason?

Wouldn't installing a duplex invite someone to plug something else in that would be better served by a GFCI-protected receptacle in the garage? :smile:


Cheaper and in stock. I have a retractable cord reel plugged in to mine. It does have GFCI protection on it though.

Tom

[wbalsam1]

Cheaper and in stock. I have a retractable cord reel plugged in to mine. It does have GFCI protection on it though.

Tom

This is kind of what I'm getting at, although you have GFCI-protected yours. :smile:

[stickboy1375]

This is kind of what I'm getting at, although you have GFCI-protected yours. :smile:


I'm pretty sure the 2008 changed this anyhow...

[Davis9]

This is kind of what I'm getting at, although you have GFCI-protected yours. :smile:
That's my story and I'm sticking to it...LOL

Tom:D

[boboelectric]

2008 N.E.C. Garage door opener 120 volt receptacle to be a g.f.c.i.protected outlet.

[Denis]

have been in garages where there was ONLY a duplex for the garage door opener that worked, but there was NO light

[iwire]

Wouldn't installing a duplex invite someone to plug something else in that would be better served by a GFCI-protected receptacle in the garage? :smile:

In my opinion this whole 'single receptacle thing' is a waste of time.

I find it hard to believe it has ever prevented a homeowner from using a receptacle that is in a spot they need.

They will either just unplug the appliance or unplug the appliance and install some sort of device to make more outlets, plug strip, a three way extension cord etc.

But I think the real reason singles don't get chosen is simply because it's easier to use all one kind of device.

[George Stolz]

In my opinion this whole 'single receptacle thing' is a waste of time.

I find it hard to believe it has ever prevented a homeowner from using a receptacle that is in a spot they need.
Nonsense! The single receptacle is a fortress of electrical defense no DIY hack could ever outwit! :D

894
I've bought a couple of these over the years, I don't see a problem with it. They usually wind up behind the newest location for the entertainment center in the living room. I made the mistake (once) of installing a three gang box with three duplexes in it for the components - once the entertainment center moved, that was the stupidest looking wall in the whole house, IMO.

I'll stick to doing it the DIY way from now on. ;)

[RADHAZMAN]

Duplex receptacles look as if they may be history with the requirements of more GFCI and AFCI's

[jaylectricity]

I agree with Bob. Although single receptacles look more "utilitarian" it doesn't stop anyone from defeating it.

It's in stock, you use it more often. Matter of fact I used to think that if you had only one duplex receptacle on a 20 amp circuit you needed to make it a 20 amp duplex receptacle. But actually, BOTH of the receptacles on a 15 amp duplex receptacle are rated for 15 amps each which, in effect provides 2 receptacles on the circuit. Yes there is a chance somebody could draw 15-20 amps on 1/2 of that duplex receptacle, but that is no different than drawing 15-20 on one of 10 receptacles on a circuit.

Why pay $2 for a single receptacle when you can 1. Pay 50 cents for a duplex and 2. Provide another place for a customer to get power?

[iaov]

In my opinion this whole 'single receptacle thing' is a waste of time.

I find it hard to believe it has ever prevented a homeowner from using a receptacle that is in a spot they need.

They will either just unplug the appliance or unplug the appliance and install some sort of device to make more outlets, plug strip, a three way extension cord etc.

But I think the real reason singles don't get chosen is simply because it's easier to use all one kind of device.I agree with you completely on this one iwire!

[electricmanscott]

Duplex receptacles look as if they may be history with the requirements of more GFCI and AFCI's

What then would you install?

[George Stolz]

I think he meant to write "single" instead of "duplex". ;)