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Jerseydaze
12-29-2007, 07:58 AM
I have a job coming up that I would like to use a rotary hammer to make a hole to fit 1 1/4 PVC. Ive never bought one of these anyone have a tip on what to look for I plan to get a g-rod attachment also .My old boss would have broke out the hammer and chisel. Oh yeah and I'm a cheep skate for what its worth.

iwire
12-29-2007, 08:06 AM
anyone have a tip on what to look for I plan to get a g-rod attachment also .

I like the large Bosch SDS drills they are pretty tough and you pretty much can't kill a large Hilti.

Oh yeah and I'm a cheep skate

With ground rod attachment, 1.75 bit and maybe a couple of others I think you will be into $800-$1,000 quickly.

Dennis Alwon
12-29-2007, 08:20 AM
Oh yeah and I'm a cheep skate for what its worth.

Bring out the rod and chisel. :grin:

The bosch is also my choice but I believe you can get it cheaper than Bob says or at least get a cheaper model.

iwire
12-29-2007, 08:27 AM
I believe you can get it cheaper than Bob says or at least get a cheaper model.

Yeah you can get the gun cheaper, but my estimate includes the bullets. 8-)

The ground rod adapter and large bits are not cheap 1.25" PVC is 1.66" OD so at least a 1.75" hole will be needed, if he plans on sealing the hole I would go up to a 2" bit.

ItsHot
12-29-2007, 09:36 AM
If you ever need a "jack" hammer style drill you can't beat a Bosch. It comes with a pull cart and all tips/attachment. I rent this at a great rate from a tool rental store. The Hilti 70 series is hard to beat for horizontal drilling, but can get heavy fast. I used mine a couple of weeks ago with ground rod attachment to drive a rod. The ground was really hard but the Hilti knocked it out in about 3 minutes!!

Minuteman
12-29-2007, 09:46 AM
http://www.drillspot.com/pimages/31/3121_300.jpg

I have a Dewalt D25404K Sds Plus Rotary Hammer Drill. It will do whatever I need it to, I have a 2" dry core bit that has been through poured walls, and I use a 3/4" core bit as a groundrod driver. (Hey, it works!)

bkludecke
12-29-2007, 01:10 PM
If you are a cheapskate you may want to spend the big bucks now. I wish I had the money I have wasted on cheap tools that don't perform, only to go back and buy the good tool anyway. The good quality stuff (Hilti, Bosch, etc.) is almost always the best value.

When I'm looking to purchase an expensive tool I usually go to the rental yard and see what they buy. They know what holds up and what doesn't.

480sparky
12-29-2007, 02:20 PM
I have always been a firm believer in buying the best tool you can afford. Even if it's more than you need today, you will need it tomorrow.

If you need a DVM, don't go buy a $25 model if you have $200 you can afford.

mdshunk
12-29-2007, 02:29 PM
On the other hand, if you buy a lesser model now, and end up needing a better one down the line, you have a "backup" to fall back on. Either that, or you have all your old cast off's to set up the next truck with tools.

For what it's worth, I use the Milwaukee 5321-21 Spline drive rotary hammer for most drilling and coring. Does up to a 1-1/2" masonry bit or a 6" core. I like spline drive because I can get the bits most easily. I'd have a harder time sourcing the SDSmax and SDS+ bits in the larger sizes in my area, which is why I picked spline drive. Your mileage will vary. Before you settle on one particular chuck for your rotary hammer, I'd suggest that you pole your regular jobbers to see what drive type of bits and core shafts they normally stock.

For the smaller anchor hole sizes (maybe 3/4" and less), I think it's fair to say that the regular SDS (not plus or max) is pretty much the standard drive type.

charlie tuna
12-29-2007, 03:04 PM
i have both hilti and bosch units. i have the light weight and heavy duty sized for the hole needed. i have never had them serviced or in the repair shop and used them for over 25 years..........

cadpoint
12-29-2007, 03:29 PM
Whats the largerest size Concrete or even circle bore drill bit that one can get for a SDS chuck? Hilti's sight all
the drill bit looks equal to the SDS shank size :confused: ... IE same photo for all there listed drills... ?
1" is the biggest?

I'm thinking my "Best Deal" Hilti TE 6-S won't cut it ~ 40% of the time.

Even though theres plenty of attachments still to buy for it... Like a quick change for stanrdard drill bits.

I really need to go to Hilti city counter, and learn some stuff before I treat myself...

Seems there was a near exact post some time back where a comparison on Hand & Heavy Drills was made.

I've used most of them over the years, I've never burned one up one but have stuck a few drill bits...:rolleyes:

Dennis Alwon
12-29-2007, 04:00 PM
I don't have the SDS but I have the Bosch Spline Hammer drill and I have a 2 1/2" concrete bit. It is a core bit but they come up to 5"

Click here for Bosch bit sizes (http://www.boschtools.com/accessories/accessories-detail.htm?H=188786&G=61529)


http://66.77.255.87/Images/BOSCHACCESSORIES/HC8030_B/WEB_PD/HC8030_B.jpg

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b7cc00b3127cceb35f2da37ba000000020100UaNmbRs1Ys

Rewire
12-29-2007, 04:36 PM
I have a Hitachi that was 450.00 I always rent my core bits and my ground rod driver is named Cody.

mikeames
12-29-2007, 08:06 PM
I like Bosch but my best tools are Milwaukee

http://www.mytoolstore.com/milwauke/5336-22.jpg

ceb
12-29-2007, 08:33 PM
I have a job coming up that I would like to use a rotary hammer to make a hole to fit 1 1/4 PVC. Ive never bought one of these anyone have a tip on what to look for I plan to get a g-rod attachment also .My old boss would have broke out the hammer and chisel. Oh yeah and I'm a cheep skate for what its worth.

I use a Dewalt 1" spline bit will handle a 2" bit and will switch to chisel.
If you are a REAL cheep skate be prepaired for sticker shock.

rkrieger
12-29-2007, 08:57 PM
Here's what we have done for driving ground rods. Took a 12 lb. sledge hammer head and removed the wooden handle. Cut a piece of 1" IMC for the handle and formed the end to fit into sledge head and welded. Then, about 28"-30"" from head end, we cut handle and welded a plug into handle. To drive the ground rod, slip sledge over rod and pound rod down to within 24" or so from grade. Then we made an "adapter" that fits over remaining ground rod and also fits into sledge handle. Finish driving rod down to grade. We use a Macho I rotary hammer when we have power, but this home-made sledge setup takes alot of work out of it.

RLK

tyha
12-29-2007, 09:22 PM
almost all our trucks carry a bosch or dewalt like the ones metioned earlier. but a friend of mine turned me on to a tool store we have here called harbor frieght tools. the have an online store harborfrieghtusa.com and they sell these off the wall sds, sds max drills for a third of what the others cost. we bought one about 2 months ago while a dewalt we had was in the shop getting a new trigger and the darn thing works great. i dont know how long it will last but it has a 3 year warranty that is 100%. i bought a 4.5 angle grinder last week for $16 and its working just fine. I have always been a firm believer in that you get what you pay for and usually get the most expensive for my company stuff, but these tools are showing me a little something.

mdshunk
12-29-2007, 10:10 PM
almost all our trucks carry a bosch or dewalt like the ones metioned earlier. but a friend of mine turned me on to a tool store we have here called harbor frieght tools. .
They're a good source for disposable tools.

LarryFine
12-29-2007, 11:49 PM
We use a Macho I rotary hammer when we have power, but this home-made sledge setup takes alot of work out of it.
I have a 2500w (continuous) inverter, so I always have 120v power. 8-)

I used to use a fence-post driver and finish with a sledge. Never again. :rolleyes:

boboelectric
12-30-2007, 02:34 AM
I have a 2500w (continuous) inverter, so I always have 120v power. 8-)

I used to use a fence-post driver and finish with a sledge. Never again. :rolleyes:
Me too. Being cheap,rather than being smart.I invest in tools to get us home earlier and not beat up.

mengelman
12-30-2007, 09:18 AM
There are very few good deals on Ebay,but rotary hammers are one exception.
I bought a BIG Milwaukee spline drive with some chisels and bits for 120.00.
I think it will handle up to 1-1/2" bit.
I use it with my 2000W Honda generator quite often. the Honda is quiet and starts easily every time.

hardworkingstiff
12-30-2007, 10:43 AM
I use it with my 2000W Honda generator quite often. the Honda is quiet and starts easily every time.

I have one too, it's the best $1,000 I've spent in a while.

Jerseydaze
01-03-2008, 07:45 AM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=160195261408&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=006

Heres a link to what I ended up buying the guys got another one to.Thanks for the advise.

randomkiller
01-03-2008, 07:17 PM
I'd back up MDs on this one, I think spline drive is the only way to go on drill bits over 1", SDS is really only productive up to 7/8" and that's pushing it in poured concrete. In our shop all the Dewalt sds tools are either doa or out for repair, Bosch is hit or miss, Hilti seems pretty consistant.