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electricmanscott
03-09-2008, 07:13 PM
Many of my kitchen customers are requesting Plugmold for their counter use receptacles and I still have yet to find any with TR receptacles. I heard somewhere that someone had found some. Anybody here see any yet??
mdshunk
03-09-2008, 07:22 PM
I thnk the closest thing I've seen for you to use so far is Hubbell's "J Load" product, intended to let you mount regular receptacles of any sort in an undercabinet manner:

http://www.homeselect.net/E_underCabinet.htm
electricalperson
03-09-2008, 08:42 PM
i recently had an issue like this. the companies that make plugmold and other types of strips are working on making a TR version. as far as i know they dont know when they will hit the market
electricmanscott
03-09-2008, 09:13 PM
Marc, that was my second option and I think I might push that one anyway.

What I heard "on the streets" was from an inspector. He had a guy call and ask if he needed to install TR plugmold for a kitchen project. The guy couldn't find any but supposedly called the inspector back and said he found one manufacturer that did have it available. Don't know who the manufacturer is though..
mdshunk
03-09-2008, 09:16 PM
The guy couldn't find any but supposedly called the inspector back and said he found one manufacturer that did have it available. Don't know who the manufacturer is though..
Who else even makes anything like PlugMold? MonoSystems does, but they don't seem to have anything TR. I seem to remember 480Sparky posting on this a few weeks ago, with a picture, but I'm not sure what it was in regard to exactly.
electricalperson
03-09-2008, 09:20 PM
task lighting makes the angled strip. looks a little better than wiremold brand plugmold. i dont think they make it TR yet i asked them a few months ago. maybe they do by now
iwire
03-09-2008, 09:28 PM
MonoSystems does,

I hate that stuff, at least the product line I worked with was junk, the receptacles kept falling apart.
mdshunk
03-09-2008, 09:32 PM
I hate that stuff, at least the product line I worked with was junk, the receptacles kept falling apart.
I ended up with some of their product by sort of a bait-and-switch thing, but I don't remember having an opinion on it. It was 500/700 compatible stuff. No PlugMold. Hubbell makes some that's supposed to be compatible with Wiremold's stuff, but it's a little hit and miss.
jaylectricity
03-09-2008, 11:20 PM
I'm sorry I'm missing it... what is TR?

It's probably obvious but I'm not getting it.
electricalperson
03-09-2008, 11:26 PM
I'm sorry I'm missing it... what is TR?

It's probably obvious but I'm not getting it.
tamper resistant. all 125volt 15 and 20 amp receptacles must be tr in houses now
jaylectricity
03-09-2008, 11:31 PM
tamper resistant. all 125volt 15 and 20 amp receptacles must be tr in houses now

So what do they resist? Orbital sanders? Or butter knives?

I edited to add:

Does anybody remember that Simpsons episode where the lady came to "baby-proof" the house? Then Homer drew little bunny ears on the receptacle plates and Marge said, "But Maggie isn't afraid of bunnies!" Then Homer says, "She WILL be."
peter d
03-09-2008, 11:56 PM
If the code requires something, and it's not even manufactured, is it ok to install a non-compliant product?

I know that the code requires TR everywhere...BUT...does anyone see a danger of installing non-TR plugmold on a kitchen counter?
ItsHot
03-10-2008, 12:01 AM
If the code requires something, and it's not even manufactured, is it ok to install a non-compliant product?

I know that the code requires TR everywhere...BUT...does anyone see a danger of installing non-TR plugmold on a kitchen counter?
Keep those crumb snatchers off the counter tops!
iwire
03-10-2008, 05:52 AM
If the code requires something, and it's not even manufactured, is it ok to install a non-compliant product?

Pete I think that as there are over readily available ways to do the job and meet code that you could not expect a pass.

Say a location required a GFCI receptacle but one was not available in the HOs color. Could you ignore the rule?

I know that the code requires TR everywhere...BUT...does anyone see a danger of installing non-TR plugmold on a kitchen counter?

What difference does it make what we think? :grin:
e57
03-10-2008, 11:28 AM
Say a location required a GFCI receptacle but one was not available in the HOs color. Could you ignore the rule?

GFI breaker.... Won't help the TR thing though.... I am SO GLAD I dont have to deal with this code for the near future.....
electricalperson
03-10-2008, 05:17 PM
So what do they resist? Orbital sanders? Or butter knives?

I edited to add:

Does anybody remember that Simpsons episode where the lady came to "baby-proof" the house? Then Homer drew little bunny ears on the receptacle plates and Marge said, "But Maggie isn't afraid of bunnies!" Then Homer says, "She WILL be."
if you slide a paperclip or something into one side of the receptacle the plastic slider wont allow it to touch the contacts. theres an interlock between the 2 sides so if you slide in a plug it will go in easy and wont cause problems. i got a TR receptacle in my truck i got from hubble and it does what its supposed to do.
electricalperson
03-10-2008, 05:19 PM
If the code requires something, and it's not even manufactured, is it ok to install a non-compliant product?

I know that the code requires TR everywhere...BUT...does anyone see a danger of installing non-TR plugmold on a kitchen counter?
with that situation i would call up the inspector and ask if he could wave that requirement for the plugmold. im sure inspectors will understand but im probably horribly wrong about that :smile:
peter d
03-10-2008, 05:23 PM
What difference does it make what we think? :grin:

Very true, but I still try to apply common sense to these situations. Maybe a bad idea? ;)
electricmanscott
03-10-2008, 05:39 PM
with that situation i would call up the inspector and ask if he could wave that requirement for the plugmold. im sure inspectors will understand but im probably horribly wrong about that :smile:


90.4 Addresses this and what pete pointed out, but I don't know if it would apply to this situation. Also I have no kind words for the inspector in the town that this job is located in. He is less than reasonable.
j_erickson
03-10-2008, 10:33 PM
90.4 Addresses this and what pete pointed out, but I don't know if it would apply to this situation. Also I have no kind words for the inspector in the town that this job is located in. He is less than reasonable.

What town, Milford?:grin:

Must be woostah.
electricmanscott
03-11-2008, 07:40 AM
What town, Milford?:grin:
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Yeah, that guy is a baaaastaaad. Not in his town! :grin:
Dennis Alwon
03-25-2008, 08:02 PM
Not sure if it is available yet but I just received this from the wiremold rep.

Not sure how this will view but it is Plugmold 24R Series Meets New TR requirements for 2008 NEC

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b8dd04b3127cceb72a6e7ed38d00000025100UaNmbRs1Ys