slang...

[ultramegabob]

Does anyone else on here call split bolts "Kerneys"?

[stickboy1375]

Whats a split bolt?? :grin:

[kkwong]

Yup. I do.

[K2500]

I've heard it, but I don't use it.
http://www.tradeslang.com/

[mdshunk]

Does anyone else on here call split bolts "Kerneys"?
If someone asked me to get a Kerney, I'd know what they were asking for, but it's not in common use in my area. That's a term favored by men trained in the 50's and 60's, in my experience. On the other hand, "Kearney cover" is a term I stil hear popularly in use, which refers to the plastic clamshell type cover you can click over top of a split bolt instead of taping it up.
Kearney is a brand name.

[480sparky]

Whats a split bolt?? :grin:

http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc172/480sparky/splitbolt.jpg

[stickboy1375]

http://i214.photobucket.com/albums/cc172/480sparky/splitbolt.jpg

I was just kidding, with better products out there I thought it was funny to ask what a split bolt was...

[ultramegabob]

Kearney is a brand name.


I kinda figgured that, kinda like everyone calling NM Romex...

[boboelectric]

we call them Burndeys.

[480sparky]

I was just kidding, with better products out there I thought it was funny to ask what a split bolt was...

But there may be someone out there who doesn't know what they are....

[ultramegabob]

somehow split bolts came up in a conversation today, and I called them Kerneys, a guy I work with hadnt heard them called that before, just curious how many other people call them that....

[mdshunk]

somehow split bolts came up in a conversation today, and I called them Kerneys, a guy I work with hadnt heard them called that before, just curious how many other people call them that....
Are you presently in your 60's or 70's? Not slamming you... just testing out my theory. If not, did you apprentice primarily to a person who was trained in the 1950's or 1960's?

[ultramegabob]

Are you presently in your 60's or 70's? Not slamming you... just testing out my theory. If not, did you apprentice primarily to a person who was trained in the 1950's or 1960's?


no, but my grandfather was an electrician, and my father picked up alot of his slang, and I think I picked it up from him....

[R Bob]

somehow split bolts came up in a conversation today, and I called them Kerneys, a guy I work with hadnt heard them called that before, just curious how many other people call them that....

When I started out in the trade, we called them "bugs".
Most people under 50 have no idea what I'm talking about today.

[mdshunk]

When I started out in the trade, we called them "bugs".
Most people under 50 have no idea what I'm talking about today.
Just heard that from a lineman the other day. He's nearing retirement, but he was explaining how he wears gloves so much that he's dexterous enough to "put on a number 8 bug".

[ultramegabob]

When I started out in the trade, we called them "bugs".
Most people under 50 have no idea what I'm talking about today.

I have heard that term also, and scotchlocks are beanies or jellybeans....

[jerm]

we call them both, either. I think everyone in our shop knows that a kearney is a splitbolt. don't use many of them though. PEDs instead.

[mdshunk]

, and scotchlocks are beanies or jellybeans....
Funny, I know "beanies" as the Dolphin-type connector the alarm guys use. Sorts like an insulated crimp with a bunch of teeth inside that you smash with your pliers.

http://www.installer.com/ethereal/photos/beanie.jpg

[480sparky]

I have heard that term also, and scotchlocks are beanies or jellybeans....


This (http://www.sandman.com/pdf/page58.pdf) is a beanie to me....

[jerm]

http://www.installer.com/ethereal/photos/beanie.jpg
We call those b-line splices. use them on security and fire alarm installs sometimes. I don't have any on the truck though, not used often enough.

[crossman]

A Kearney is a split-bolt down here where I come from. I was trained in the 80s by JWs who were trained in the 50s and 60s.

[ishium 80439]

I've never heard the term Kearney before. Where I came up in the trade we called them bugs, but it seems that noone here has heard that term before. I don't want to hijack this thread with other regional slang but the comment about Kearney being a brand name reminded me of something. In CT we always called metal box supports "madison's". Here everyone calls them f-straps and never heard the term madison before. I was doing some demo one day and pulled out an OW box and stamped right on the side of the strap was "Madison equipment co" (or something to that effect). I found it kind of amusing that in the state where the term was used noone could tell me where it came from and in the state where noone heard of this term they were using the real McKoy (or would that be the real Madison?)

[ultramegabob]

I've never heard the term Kearney before. Where I came up in the trade we called them bugs, but it seems that noone here has heard that term before. I don't want to hijack this thread with other regional slang but the comment about Kearney being a brand name reminded me of something. In CT we always called metal box supports "madison's". Here everyone calls them f-straps and never heard the term madison before. I was doing some demo one day and pulled out an OW box and stamped right on the side of the strap was "Madison equipment co" (or something to that effect). I found it kind of amusing that in the state where the term was used noone could tell me where it came from and in the state where noone heard of this term they were using the real McKoy (or would that be the real Madison?)


I have heard box supports called, madisons, steamships, battleships, ship clips, f-clips, but the local name around here for them is "Hold its".....

[1793]

Split bolts are Kearnies and Madison clips are Holder Hangers.

I guess I'm starting to show my age.

[iwire]

Gentlemen, keep it clean.

[bbaumer]

Sorry.

The thread asked for slang terms. I guess you can't get more slang than that!

Apologies if anyone was offended.

[bbaumer]

Gentlemen, keep it clean.

Curious, did you know what the item in question was?

[iwire]

The thread asked for slang terms. I guess you can't get more slang than that!.

No big deal at all and your free to PM any of the off color slang terms.

[ultramegabob]

Gentlemen, keep it clean.

My appologies, although in my defense I did attempt to make it PG13.....

[iwire]

Curious, did you know what the item in question was?

It's not my first day in the trade. 8-)

[bbaumer]

It's not my first day in the trade. 8-)

..............:grin:

[j_erickson]

Back to OP, we call them burndy's. My father started in the 60's and that's what he called them. Of course he was trained by someone who started much earlier than that..."Bugs" here are whatever you use to connect service entrance to service drop. Split bolts, those Alcoa connectors I used to get from Mass Elec.

[ultramegabob]

Back to OP, we call them burndy's. My father started in the 60's and that's what he called them. Of course he was trained by someone who started much earlier than that..."Bugs" here are whatever you use to connect service entrance to service drop. Split bolts, those Alcoa connectors I used to get from Mass Elec.


linemen in my area call them bugs...

[quogueelectric]

Funny, I know "beanies" as the Dolphin-type connector the alarm guys use. Sorts like an insulated crimp with a bunch of teeth inside that you smash with your pliers.

http://www.installer.com/ethereal/photos/beanie.jpg
No way those are good n plentys where I come from. Edit to add I do stock them 100+ on my truck yet rarely use them.

[tmbrk]

Back to OP, we call them burndy's. My father started in the 60's and that's what he called them. Of course he was trained by someone who started much earlier than that..."Bugs" here are whatever you use to connect service entrance to service drop. Split bolts, those Alcoa connectors I used to get from Mass Elec.

Ditto for me.

I've always called em burndies. Picked it up from my Dad who got his start in the trade in early 60's.

[Poolside]

When I started out they were called "kearneys" by most of the guys I learned from (hat tip to dear old Dad). I have heard "burndy" but personally never referred to them as such. Nowadays, I refer to them as split-bolts. Bugs? Now that is a new on me.

I'm a 3rd gen. electrician so I grew up hearing a lot of the old names.

This forum never ceases to amaze me about how much we can learn and teach to others all across the country practicing the same craft.

[jerm]

I have heard "burndy" but personally never referred to them as such.
We call the crimpers (and the crimps come to think of it- 179s, 189s, etc) the "burndys" Kind of like the word Smurf I guess. burndy makes the crimpers and the crimps we use. Wish we had a battery-powered hydraulic (http://www.specialized.net/ecommerce/shop/seriesmaster.asp?series%5Fid=Burndy+Patriot+Series +Battery+Tool) one...

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[danickstr]

here is a list of construction terms that would stymie the layman:

http://www.constructionterms.info/

[e57]

Originally Posted by mdshunk
Funny, I know "beanies" as the Dolphin-type connector the alarm guys use. Sorts like an insulated crimp with a bunch of teeth inside that you smash with your pliers.

http://www.installer.com/ethereal/photos/beanie.jpg
No way those are good n plentys where I come from. Edit to add I do stock them 100+ on my truck yet rarely use them.

Dolphin is a brand name much like Kearny (I call them Kearnies BTW) - and I got several 1/2 bags of them (indoor white ones, and blue outdoor ones)in various places, and the other 1/2 of each bag is all over the truck floor! :D When I do use them I try to get them from there first.....

[hardworkingstiff]

I'm 55 and have only known them as split-bolts. I guess I live a sheltered life.

[ultramegabob]

We call the crimpers (and the crimps come to think of it- 179s, 189s, etc) the "burndys" Kind of like the word Smurf I guess. burndy makes the crimpers and the crimps we use. Wish we had a battery-powered hydraulic (http://www.specialized.net/ecommerce/shop/seriesmaster.asp?series%5Fid=Burndy+Patriot+Series +Battery+Tool) one...

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Im kinda like you also, when I hear "Burndy" I think crimper....

[ITO]

We call them Kerneys here, but if you call a sidewinder a triple nickel only the travelers will know what you are talking about.

[electricman2]

I'm 55 and have only known them as split-bolts. I guess I live a sheltered life.
Me too.:smile:

[R Bob]

Just heard that from a lineman the other day. He's nearing retirement, but he was explaining how he wears gloves so much that he's dexterous enough to "put on a number 8 bug".

Must admit.......that guy is GOOD!

[HighWirey]

Does anyone else on here call split bolts "Kerneys"?

First knew them as Kerneys, later as split bolts, and now-a-days as "Polaris" type connectors. I wouldn't trade a boatload of "Kerneys" for one Polaris connector. Eventually all of that older technology is superceeded by something "cheaper, quicker, and better".

http://www.polarisconnectors.com/

BTW, I'm gone too . . .

Best Wishes Everyone

[JES2727]

Split bolts are Kearnies and Madison clips are Holder Hangers.

I guess I'm starting to show my age.

Split bolts are "bugs". That's all I ever called them until the guy at the counter didn't know what I was talking about. Now I call them "split bolts". Never heard the term "Kerney" before.
Madison clips are "Madison bars" here.

[bradleyelectric]

I've always called them bugs, but have been getting a lot of blank looks lately, than I describe them as split bolts.

[peter d]

Being a young'un myself, I don't know what these "Burndy's" are that you speak of. I only know of and install Polaris connectors. If you hand me a Burndy it will go in the nearest trash can. This is 2008, not 1958.

[e57]

IMO Kearnies AKA split bolts still have a use in terms of cost and application. There are many times where a stip bolt is better and cheaper. e.g. where the applicable polaris type lug is not availabe in the sizes needed with the right amount of holes, or is over-priced in comparison. Additionally, grounding where one can not say cut an GEC - but want to tap to it - use them all the time for that.

[Dennis Alwon]

Being a young'un myself, I don't know what these "Burndy's" are that you speak of. I only know of and install Polaris connectors. If you hand me a Burndy it will go in the nearest trash can. This is 2008, not 1958.

Burndy's are also called baby shoes.

http://www.tradeslang.com/images_item/slang337.jpg

Click here for trade slang search (http://www.tradeslang.com/search.asp)

[Copperclad]

I been in this trade too long I spose, Im familiar with all those slang terms............actually we call polaris taps "gutter taps" I just heard the term "hold its" the other day for madison straps. where I work now they call round mud rings " square to rounds" They laugh at me for calling the red mc insulators "anti shorts" They call em' "reds" which to me is a wire nut. I could go on and on and on,,,,,,,but fact of the matter is, this is truley a fascinating trade with alot of different characters from all sorts of backgrounds and eras. Im in the trade 25 years and still learning and having fun!~

[JohnJ0906]

"Split-bolts" or "Bugs" - when speaking to younger guys, I call them splitbolts, so they know what I am talking about.
"Madison straps" or "F-straps" - again, f-straps for the young guys.

[electricalperson]

in MA we call them burndys. even in trade school we called them burndys i never learned the proper term split bolt until i seen one in the store.

[peter d]

IMO Kearnies AKA split bolts still have a use in terms of cost and application. There are many times where a stip bolt is better and cheaper. e.g. where the applicable polaris type lug is not availabe in the sizes needed with the right amount of holes, or is over-priced in comparison. Additionally, grounding where one can not say cut an GEC - but want to tap to it - use them all the time for that.

I'll grant you that they are still useful for GEC's, EGC's or other bare wire applications where you have to make a tap.

But the Polaris connectors are always more expensive, so the cost of them is not the issue. The labor savings and the fact that you don't have to mess around with vulcanizing tape and all that stuff wash out the extra cost.

[Last Leg]

So, how many of you use 'Kleins' and how many use 'sidecutters'?

[peter d]

So, how many of you use 'Kleins' and how many use 'sidecutters'?

Around here the common terms are simply "pliers" or "linesman's"

[bbaumer]

Around here the common terms are simply "pliers" or "linesman's"

Sidecuts and linesman pliers are similar but not exactly the same thing. Linesman pliers have a bolt thread grip, sidecuts don't:

http://www.service.kleintools.com/Marketing/Catalog_Imagery/D2000-9neth_icon.jpg

http://www.service.kleintools.com/Marketing/Catalog_Imagery/d2000-9ne_icon.jpg

[peter d]

Sidecuts and linesman pliers are similar but not exactly the same thing. Linesman pliers have a bolt thread grip, sidecuts don't:


Thanks, I did not know that. :) I don't think any of the supply houses here carry the true "linesman" pliers.

[ultramegabob]

Sidecuts and linesman pliers are similar but not exactly the same thing. Linesman pliers have a bolt thread grip, sidecuts don't:

http://www.service.kleintools.com/Marketing/Catalog_Imagery/D2000-9neth_icon.jpg

http://www.service.kleintools.com/Marketing/Catalog_Imagery/d2000-9ne_icon.jpg


thats what I call a hammer...

[peter d]

thats what I call a hammer...

As well as a conduit reamer, strippers, staple puller....

[1793]

Conduit reamer etc...
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y169/1793/ct2-41_needlenose.jpg

[ultramegabob]

almost every tool in my pouch has a reaming function...

[mdshunk]

I often can be heard calling lineman's pliers "nines".

[ultramegabob]

I often can be heard calling lineman's pliers "nines".

I worked with a guy that called them "nines" was that a model number or a length of the pliers?

[480sparky]

I often can be heard calling lineman's pliers "nines".

Or "electrician's hammer'.

[jerm]

I worked with a guy that called them "nines" was that a model number or a length of the pliers?

length. "nine kliens". or just "hand me the kliens". (no, I never wear the belt.)

[walkerj]

What's a hammer?8-)

[electricalperson]

spin tight anyone? what about jiffy ell

[MF Dagger]

What's a hammer?8-)
It's about nine inches long and says klein on the side

[LarryFine]

The base model number is 9NE.

"Klein's 9's?"

[ultramegabob]

aprentice mentioned "roundhouse" in another thread about 3 phase 4 wire multiwire branch circuits. I have heard this before, but I always call them a "family"...

[480sparky]

aprentice mentioned "roundhouse" in another thread about 3 phase 4 wire multiwire branch circuits. I have heard this before, but I always call them a "family"...

That's a 'full boat' to me.

[sparky707]

I' never heard the term Kerneys but Burndies is quite acommon one.

[sparky707]

I've heard them call Madisons, Madison straps, F-straps and Battleships

[Huevos]

Kearney's, split bolts are a common name here but a BUG is the 38 J-frame I keep in my ankle holster... :D

Madison's I've never heard but battleship is a common name, we call them E-strips over here. I don't know why though, they do look more like an F.

How many know what an Ericson is, or Kindorf?

[Chamuit]

I'd never heard any other term than split-bolt myself, until today. We never use them. When we have to make taps we use c-taps. Seen them used for illegal service changes.

Madison clamps is the term I use although f-clips, f-clamps, battleships are common.

Call all 'em "Kleins".

Any body here call water bond clamps j-juniors?

Do you know what greenfield is?

Soap? (Yellow-77)

Used an ericsons (coupling) once in 13 years.

[Minuteman]

Regardless of age, I would guess that most anybody who has ever held a yellow ticket (even in their shoe) would know the terms; Kearney (bug), Nines, Erickson, Greenfield, Crows Knuckle, Kendorf, Sta-Cons, Jake EL (Jiffy EL), Square-to-round, Spin Tight, Mini, Hickey, Pump Pliers, Scotch Lock, and Junior.

FWIW, what do you call the other pouch on your tool belt where odd parts are kept? Bug Bag

[jrannis]

Does anyone else on here call split bolts "Kerneys"?
We call them "Bugs"

[jrannis]

Regardless of age, I would guess that most anybody who has ever held a yellow ticket (even in their shoe) would know the terms; Kearney (bug), Nines, Erickson, Greenfield, Crows Knuckle, Kendorf, Sta-Cons, Jake EL (Jiffy EL), Square-to-round, Spin Tight, Mini, Hickey, Pump Pliers, Scotch Lock, and Junior.

FWIW, what do you call the other pouch on your tool belt where odd parts are kept? Bug Bag

Nines are Kliens? AKA "Sidecutters"
Kendorf is Unistrut
Spin tite is a nutdriver
Pump pliers are Channellocks
Crows Knuckle ??
Junior ??
Yellow Ticket D654124

[kspifldorf]

You should be careful how you use the slang for a "motor connection box" as this one GEEK calls it.:D

[frogneck77]

We call those b-line splices. use them on security and fire alarm installs sometimes. I don't have any on the truck though, not used often enough.
We call those chicklets- And I put plenty of s$%t on my bugs before rubber taping them

[Marc Nelson]

:cool: Does anyone else on here call split bolts "Kerneys"? A KERNEY is used for pulling Messenger or self support cable

[guitarchris]

We call side cutters "red handles" due to the fact that we've always bought them w/ no grips and put the red hard grips on. And they are my hammer!

we use split bolts

[EBFD6]

FWIW, what do you call the other pouch on your tool belt where odd parts are kept? Bug Bag

What's a tool belt? Isn't that what back pockets are for?:smile:

You should be careful how you use the slang for a "motor connection box" as this one GEEK calls it.

depending on where I am working, I find myself censoring "normal" conversations between me and my coworkers.

For example "hey pass me over a pair of dykes" doesn't go over too well in an office environment.;)

[Bulldog1401]

Split bolts = bug nuts
f clips = madison clips
Buchanon = crimp ferrel
9's equal 9 inch side cutters
monkey sh$t= duct seal

any body hear of cowboys?

to me, burndy's are a crimpable "h" tap

[ultramegabob]

Never heard cowboys as slang before. anyone use the slang "batwings"?

[iwire]

Lets remember to keep it clean here.

[Dinotats]

after reading throug some pages, don't know what to call anything anymore! lol

Always "Go with, what you know"