Wonder Why GFCI Doesn't Work

[electricman2]

Service Call. HO says after bathroom remodel,GFCI outlet is dead also outside receptacle. Here is what I found.

http://home.triad.rr.com/eastdavelec/pictures/PIC2.jpg

The two black wires came out of the wire nut when I pulled receptacle out. It gets better!

http://home.triad.rr.com/eastdavelec/pictures/PIC1.jpg

Old style GFCI with leads. Hot wire in box spliced to ground wire. Both hot wires,(line and load) spliced together to hot wire going to outside receptacle. white wire came out of wire nut too. EGC in box not connected to anything. Found out that whoever put up drywall removed receptacle then replaced it after sheetrock was up.

[SiddMartin]

how did that ever fit in that box

[peter d]

how did that ever fit in that box

Obviously with the butt of a hammer handle. ;)

[satcom]

how did that ever fit in that box

You don't worry about the box size, you just use your foot, or whatever heavy object you can force it in with, they said I needed a GFCI there no one said anything about it having to work.

[electricmanscott]

Classic case of homeowner or carpenter doing electrical work for remodel.

[iwire]

Code wise is it actually overfull? :smile:

[hardworkingstiff]

Code wise is it actually overfull? :smile:

Good point. IMO, a GFCI receptacle should require more box fill space requirements than a standard device.

[480sparky]

Good point. IMO, a GFCI receptacle should require more box fill space requirements than a standard device.

That, and a lot of dimmers out there.....

[220/221]

whoever put up drywall removed receptacle then replaced it after sheetrock was up.

Looks more like they rocked AROUND it.

There are only 2 or 3 cables in there.

Why do homeowners leave 3" of sheath and only 2" of wire to work with?

Why don't they comprehend tightening the wirenuts?

When I see those type of wirenuts, I KNOW the homeowner/handyman did it.

[tmbrk]

Classic case of homeowner or carpenter doing electrical work for remodel.

I guess it must have been one of those DIYers courtesy of the Home Depot.:grin:

[abe72487]

And some people wonder why we need licensed electricains and inspectors.

[480sparky]

Plus, it looks like UF in the upper left... not fun to strip when you don't have to.

[LarryFine]

. . . whoever put up drywall removed receptacle then replaced it after sheetrock was up. I'd say that's a matter of opinion. :rolleyes:

Plus, it looks like UF in the upper left... not fun to strip when you don't have to. You'd be amazed at how well these strippers work on UF.


http://www.homedepot.com/catalog/productImage/2eb1e64e-37b2-4c2a-b615-312cf2927e19_300.jpg

[stickboy1375]

You'd be amazed at how well these strippers work on UF.


http://www.homedepot.com/catalog/productImage/2eb1e64e-37b2-4c2a-b615-312cf2927e19_300.jpg


Yeah, but they are not listed for UF. :roll:

[frizbeedog]

how did that ever fit in that box

The box is set too far back so that gave the box more room.

Article 101. See exception 3, the overfill clause. I use it all the time in when I'm in a pinch. :grin:

[EBFD6]

Yeah, but they are not listed for UF. :roll:

Neither is a razor knife:D

[stickboy1375]

Neither is a razor knife:D

Guess we should just stare at it...

[EBFD6]

Guess we should just stare at it...

That sounds like a plan!

I don't do resi, so no romex for me anyway.

I spend my days using my unlisted conduit reamer (kleins) , and unlisted locknut banger (screw driver)!:D

[hardworkingstiff]

Guess we should just stare at it...

LMAO, that's funny, I don't care who you are.

[480sparky]

Guess we should just stare at it...

I just use the lazers that shoot out of my eyes.

http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p126/wobblesdb/laser_eyes_ace.gif

:D :D

[electricman2]

Obviously with the butt of a hammer handle. ;)
Actually,after eliminating a few wirenuts and some excess wire, I got a new GFCI in there pretty easy.
I'd say that's a matter of opinion. :rolleyes:

Maybe. Would anyone admit to doing something like this?:rolleyes:

[LarryFine]

I'd say that's a matter of opinion. :rolleyes:Maybe. Would anyone admit to doing something like this?:rolleyes:
What I meant was "replaced" is a matter of opinion. :grin: To me, "replacing" includes doing it correctly.

[mark32]

480sparky, dude, that pic is hilarious!