Grouping conductors

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Volta

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I had my continuing ed. class today. I like it when the instructor is experienced in the trade, knows his code, and is willing to discuss the topics. This was a good guy on all counts.

He brought up an interpretation of section 300.20(A) that I have never heard. He believes that - and I'll paraphase and leave out some of the code text here:

~To accomplish arranging ac conductors in ferrous raceways so as to avoid heating the surrounding metal by induction, all phase conductors shall be grouped together.~

means taping the conductors every foot or so while pulling them in.:confused:

After my initial disbelief abated, I thought that, maybe, I could kinda sorta see where one could see that reading.

Keeping conductors of the same circuit in the same raceway is already covered pretty well in 300.3.
Keeping the wires in a single hole in box entries is 300.20(B).

Could he be right? (I hope not.):cool:

There are some obvious disadvanteges to this practice: withdrawing a conductor, different lengths needed around bends per wire, effectively making a larger diameter unsheathed cable which should affect the fill calc's.

I think the intertwining of multiple circuits' conductors would be only negligable in the induction produced, but what do you think?
 

Power Tech

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means taping the conductors every foot or so while pulling them in.:confused:

Never tape conductors. I have read things into the code that are not there.

Over-thinker.

Challenge him on this. Pretend it is this forum and don't give him any slack.

Hope he does not become an inspector before he works in the "real world".

Had a run in with one I am about to share on a thread.
 

don_resqcapt19

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retired electrician
There is no need to do this, but it will sightly reduce the impedance of the circuit. I have seen specs that have called for "triplexed" or "quadplexed" conductors so that the spacing is maintained between the conductors when they are installed in a raceway. I have doubts that this makes any real world difference...just a theoretical difference.
 
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