#14 switch legs on 20A OCP

[electricmanscott]

Brrrrrrr! Chilly here in hell.

 

[e57]

Now at 50 - 0

100% has been broken - I'm guessing there is a devils advocate>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Brrrrrrr! Chilly here in hell.

I assume you are the 'one'?

 

[danickstr]

the reason I would not do it is because someone might want to alter the wiring later to use either leg as a Branch circuit conductor, or make a MWBC out of it.

 

[mivey]

That being said, I've known many who've made that sort of thing their standard practice, saying things like "fixture whips are sometimes only 16 AWG or 14 AWG," and "this is the way we've always done it." As if the switch is some sort of secondary CB that limits overcurrent to 15 amps.

Jack -leg logic: Well, it's not the switch, it's all that conglomeration of wire leading up to the switch that blocks out a bunch of amps and keeps the #14 from being able to pull 20 amps...kind of like an electrical traffic jam.

HVAC/Plumber logic: The #12 feeder is the supply line and it handles the full flow. The #14 tap doesn't have to handle the full flow like the #12 so will not see 20 amps.

Or how about the educated jack-leg logic: This circuit will never be loaded past 15 amps so it's ok since that breaker will only be needed for a fault condition, which is much higher than 15 amps.

 

[e57]

the reason I would not do it is because someone might want to alter the wiring later to use either leg as a Branch circuit conductor, or make a MWBC out of it.

So are you saying it is allowed?

 

[Jim W in Tampa]

I would be embarrased if i was that (1) that thinks it's ok.
Will assume anyone that does this either has no inspections or the best inspector that money can buy.

 

[mivey]

I would be embarrased if i was that (1) that thinks it's ok.
Will assume anyone that does this either has no inspections or the best inspector that money can buy.

I think someone was stirring the pot.

 

[celtic]

the reason I would not do it is because someone might want to alter the wiring later to use either leg as a Branch circuit conductor, or make a MWBC out of it.

Would it make you feel better if they upped the 20A CB to a 30A?


We cannot be concerned with what someone will do at some imaginary point in the future.....


no matter what we do, someone will muck it up.....



eventually

 

[Sierrasparky]

It's a bad idea even if some AHJ let is slide.

 

[quogueelectric]

It was the devil himself who voted allowed.

 

[electricmanscott]

100% has been broken - I'm guessing there is a devils advocate>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I assume you are the 'one'?

Wasn't me.


I hope it was somebody just screwing around because if there is anybody in this forum that still thinks this is allowed they should have thier forum memebership card shredded. :grin:

 

[electricmanscott]

the reason I would not do it is because someone might want to alter the wiring later to use either leg as a Branch circuit conductor, or make a MWBC out of it.

Not sure what you are saying but these conductors ARE branch circuit wiring.

 

[mivey]

I hope it was somebody just screwing around because if there is anybody in this forum that still thinks this is allowed they should have thier forum memebership card shredded. :grin:

Great. Now we'll never get a confession. :grin:

 

[daleuger]

Wasn't me.


I hope it was somebody just screwing around because if there is anybody in this forum that still thinks this is allowed they should have thier forum memebership card shredded. :grin:

There are cards? I never got a card. :roll:

 

[wbalsam1]

Stay Out of Town

Stay Out of Town

When I just voted "NO" I noticed 3 votes for "YES". To those I ask "Please don't wire in my region...we've got enough electrician wannabe's already".

 

[Jim W in Tampa]

WOW i thought 1 ID 10 T was too high. Maybe we better look again at a test to become a member here. This is scary that we have guys in the field like this. Who do they work for ? BURN HOUSE ELECTRIC ? Do this on my job and you go home early and never returning. If you even need ask why i don't need you.

 

[480sparky]

When I just voted "NO" I noticed 3 votes for "YES". To those I ask "Please don't wire in my region...we've got enough electrician wannabe's already".

You're saying you voted NO when there was only 3 votes for yes? How do you explain posts 11 and 19?

 

[Pierre C Belarge]

You're saying you voted NO when there was only 3 votes for yes? How do you explain posts 11 and 19?

When I voted, I saw 3 yes responses...what is the issue with seeing yesesssssss?

 

[480sparky]

When I voted, I saw 3 yes responses...what is the issue with seeing yesesssssss?

He said when he voted NO, there were only 3 votes for YES.

 

[Jim W in Tampa]

Can i suggest that the 3 that voted yes look for more suitable work like Mc Donalds