Service Drop

[tonype]

Even though ground clearance is OK, connections appear OK are are below the elevation of the masthead, this still appears to be butt ugly. Is may be me, but I do not get a warm and fuzzy feeling.

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[lakee911]

I don't like it either. Service feeder looks a little small, no?

Looks like you have a teleco or cabletv cable attached to a mast support bracket. That's probably a violation of POCO requirements because service masts can't be used to support anything else.

I'm not sure if the proximity to teleco or cabletv in air is a concern or not.

Is the mast rusting?

Jason

 

[augie47]

, connections appear OK are are below the elevation of the masthead,

true, but 230.54(C) calls for the service head to be above the point of attachment (there are exceptions)

 

[macmikeman]

I don't like it either. Service feeder looks a little small, no?

Looks like you have a teleco or cabletv cable attached to a mast support bracket. That's probably a violation of POCO requirements because service masts can't be used to support anything else.

I'm not sure if the proximity to teleco or cabletv in air is a concern or not.

Is the mast rusting?

Jason

Not sure that that could actually qualify as a mast. It does not poke thru the roof. The poco still probably wouldn't allow those telephone lines to attach to that hanger.

 

[lakee911]

true, but 230.54(C) calls for the service head to be above the point of attachment (there are exceptions)

Exception could apply here.

Although better yet (depending on who you ask) would be to penetrate roof.

 

[daleuger]

Aside from restating whats already been pointed out....just how many fittings are on the end of that 90? And it looks like the feeders are only 2 hots coming from the pole and 3 into the weatherhead.....nm it's 4 wires and they're double tapped. Still how come the feeders going to the meter are bigger than the ones coming from the pole?

 

[tonype]

Is the mast rusting?

Jason

No - it is well protected by the overhang

 

[tonype]

Still how come the feeders going to the meter are bigger than the ones coming from the pole?

This one has bugged me for some time - I've pointed this out (and will do again) during past inspections. Follow-ups with the clients later on usually (but not always) resulted in the POCO saying its ok because the service drop is in "free air".

 

[tonype]

And it looks like the feeders are only 2 hots coming from the pole and 3 into the weatherhead.....nm it's 4 wires and they're double tapped. ?

There are two separate 150-amp Siemens panels in the basement - run separately in the conduit into the single meter. These wires then come into a common cable tray (if that is the correct term) in the basement between the two panels - one wire set goes left and the other right.

 

[celtic]

Still how come the feeders going to the meter are bigger than the ones coming from the pole?

The utility lateral is not bound by the NEC.

 

[lakee911]

No - it is well protected by the overhang

I saw some orange, but maybe it's paint.



Utility runs conductors in free air which allows for better heat dissipation.

I think that they're sized to the demand load and not necessarily the service for most residential services.

 

[tonype]

....just how many fittings are on the end of that 90?

Looked to be a 2 or 3 unions and nipplies/spacers

 

[tonype]

I saw some orange, but maybe it's paint.



Utility runs conductors in free air which allows for better heat dissipation.

I think that they're sized to the demand load and not necessarily the service for most residential services.

Yea, the orange is from the brownish stain on the home

I do not know the demand load - just the fact that (2) 150-amp panels are present.

 

[daleuger]

The utility lateral is not bound by the NEC.

Just curiosity for my own knowing. Not necessarily hammering on a guy. Now situation like that in say a trough different story

 

[Jim W in Tampa]

What POCO runs is not at issue. The drop for phone and cable i don't like as seems bit close. Lean on the cable and phone company to change. Rest looks fine to me.
My 4/0 alum is hooked to a 260 foot drop (with poles) to #2 alum and can't get poco to change. There ID 10 T says he checked voltage under his so called load. Only thing helping is house next door has been vacant for years. It was also on same line. I have changed 2 of my 3 Central airs to a heat pump and 3rd is only 5KW. We are talking 3600 sq feet of home, 2 washers 2 dryers, hot tub and everything is electric. Total AC is 14 to 15 tons at peak use. Just getting by on 200 amp service. Guess when i fry the wires they wake up .

 

[Pierre C Belarge]

I am not sure if anyone has noticed, but the conductor in the EMT riser are paralleled. I wonder if the size is correct based on the ampacity adjustment necessary to be accounted for.

 

[hurk27]

I am not sure if anyone has noticed, but the conductor in the EMT riser are paralleled. I wonder if the size is correct based on the ampacity adjustment necessary to be accounted for.

I believe the OP stated they are not parallel but serve separate loads, two separate meters and panels, in basement. derating would still apply though, if even necessary.

see post#9

 

[Jim W in Tampa]

I am not sure if anyone has noticed, but the conductor in the EMT riser are paralleled. I wonder if the size is correct based on the ampacity adjustment necessary to be accounted for.

Gave that thought , but lets look at what poco ran and then tell me what will melt first .

 

[hurk27]

Gave that thought , but lets look at what poco ran and then tell me what will melt first .

I would rather there wire melt first, built in fuse link

 

[paul]

I see no violations. If'n it were me, I would comment to myself on it and move on.