I have not found a clear answer to a question I have in Article 210 of the NEC. I can see where (residential) bathroom must have a 20amp plug, 2ea 20amp circuits for countertop plugs in the kitchen, 20amp plug for the utility. I don't see what is required for the garage, kitchen refrigerator, or outdoor circuits. Anyone know a code reference that specifies minimum requirements for the garage, kitchen refrigerator, and outdoor plugs?
What amp?
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There aren't any. Well, perhaps the fridge. I recall (no code book handy at present) that it has to be on one of the small appliance 20 amp circuits, unless it is a dedicated outlet. Otherwise, the others can be on 15s or 20s, as you wish.
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Pierre C Belarge
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If there are no details, the minimum number of circuits to a dwelling is how many?
This has been a test question for awhile.
Anyone care to take a stab at this question.
Hint - the answer is in the NEC.
This has been a test question for awhile.
Anyone care to take a stab at this question.
Hint - the answer is in the NEC.
e57
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Hmmm... Got a test coming up?
Part I of 210 tells you how many circuits are required....
Part III of 210 tells you how many outlets and where in many locations some applicable to dwellings and some applicable to other places.... That said - no circuit should ever be over-loaded, so one would also have to take care of the connected load....
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Kitchen refrigerator
Kitchen refrigerator
NEC 2008, 210.52(B)(1) as stated before Exception No. 1 ...",and receptacle outlets for refrigeration equipment"
Exception No. 2 states the refrigerator may be run off an individual 15A or greater circuit, if you want.
Kitchen refrigerator
NEC 2008, 210.52(B)(1) as stated before Exception No. 1 ...",and receptacle outlets for refrigeration equipment"
Exception No. 2 states the refrigerator may be run off an individual 15A or greater circuit, if you want.
Without any details on a dwelling unit, at least 4 circuits are required by 210.11(C): two 20A small appliance, one 20A laundry, and one 20A bathroom.If there are no details, the minimum number of circuits to a dwelling is how many?
This has been a test question for awhile.
Anyone care to take a stab at this question.
Hint - the answer is in the NEC.
I say 4 also,... But; Two 20A sabc, one 20A bathroom and 1 lighting ckt for living area. You dont have a laundry room
BTW, A refrigerator is a rather big small appliance don't you think?
LarryFine
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Di, welcome to the forum!
The fridge can either be on a 20a SA circuit or on an individual 15 or 20a circuit.
The fridge can either be on a 20a SA circuit or on an individual 15 or 20a circuit.
Without looking, five?
e57
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How many recessed cans does said house have?Di, welcome to the forum!
The fridge can either be on a 20a SA circuit or on an individual 15 or 20a circuit.
Without looking, five?
LarryFine
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e57
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2ea. SA
1 Laundry (If applicable)
1 Bath
1 GP recept and lighting circuit.
5 is the dead NEC min. and an unhappy consumer.
The real min. is no call-backs or court fees...
1 Laundry (If applicable)
1 Bath
1 GP recept and lighting circuit.
5 is the dead NEC min. and an unhappy consumer.
The real min. is no call-backs or court fees...
Granted you will likely need at least one general lighting circuit, but that is based on square footage or connected load, whichever is greater. Those, my friend, are details... and Pierre said with no details
Doesn't matter whether you have a laundry [room or area] or not... the circuit for such is required.You dont have a laundry room
I wouldn't know... electrified cans do not sit well with meWouldn't recessed cans be difficult to sit on?
LarryFine
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LarryFine
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We gotta stop, or the Mod Squad will wreak havoc upon us.I wouldn't know... electrified cans do not sit well with me
Aw, c'mon... gotta let me push the envelope once and a while...We gotta stop, or the Mod Squad will wreak havoc upon us.
(Otherwise, LOL
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LarryFine
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Go for it. I don't know if I've been officially surpassed, but I've retired as the forum's most censored member.Aw, c'mon... gotta let me push the envelope once and a while...
(Otherwise, LOL
Hendrix
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Who says your house has to have electriciityIf there are no details, the minimum number of circuits to a dwelling is how many?
This has been a test question for awhile.
Anyone care to take a stab at this question.
Hint - the answer is in the NEC.
mivey
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I had an uncle that built a house that was about 600-800 sq ft. One long room had a bed on one end, the kitchen on the other, and a small open area in the middle with a desk and couch. The bathroom & laundry/closet were in a separate room.
He over-insulated the thing and heated it with a lamp sitting in the middle of the floor. He had a 1600 sq ft house next door that he used for a shop. He lived alone and felt the big house was wasted as a living area.
Yes, he is a little different.
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