electricmanscott
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- Boston, MA
Violation of "good idea" code.
Dishwasher and garbage disposal
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Violation of "good idea" code.
ditto!!!!!
- Location
- Windsor, CO NEC: 2017
- Occupation
- Service Manager
I have offered a devils advocate opinion in the past that there are no allowances in 210.23 for this type of switching. It literally says "connected to the circuit." The panel schedule will show the disposal and the dishwasher on that same circuit, technically.
That said, there's no way the circuit could be overloaded, so it shouldn't be a code violation...
That said, there's no way the circuit could be overloaded, so it shouldn't be a code violation...
George,
how is there "no way" the circuit could be overload? if you have a 10a dw and a 10a disp (which is a motor load and will exceed that on startup). how is there no possibility of it being overloaded?
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- Windsor, CO NEC: 2017
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- Service Manager
Because if the homerun is the common, and either load is connected to a different traveler of the same switch, then the loads cannot be simultaneously energized.
RICK NAPIER
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- New Jersey
I agree it is a bad idea and not a violation if both devices have accessable plugs for disconnects.
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- Chapel Hill, NC
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- Retired Electrical Contractor
I am not sure why everyone thinks a recep. is needed. Why isn't the 3 way suitable as a disconnect as long as it is within site of the appliances.
DetroitEE
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- Detroit, MI
Wouldn't that violate 422.35 Since a 3-way doesn't indicate on/off?
- Location
- Simi Valley, CA
OK, I go along with the "not a code violation/not a great idea" thinking.
knot stable
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- Warren,RI
I can't believe someone would even think of doing this.
my bad, i didn't think you were referring to the "3-way switch" set up.
paul
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- Snohomish, WA
I don't know why they require separate circuits. How long do people run their disposal? Mine is only run about 5 seconds each time. By then I'm not running at full load, because all the food is ground to a pulp, therefore the motor is not drawing it's peak ampacity. Has anyone EVER tripped the circuit while running both? I doubt it!
I bought my house 11 years ago and it came with both on the same circuit. They have never tripped!
I bought my house 11 years ago and it came with both on the same circuit. They have never tripped!
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- New Jersey
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- Journeyman Electrician
- Location
- Chapel Hill, NC
- Occupation
- Retired Electrical Contractor
Good catch- I forgot about that.:grin:
M. D.
Senior Member
I can and have done it myself ,.. and I thought I was being quite clever, I might add ,.. This was before dishwashers were little computers,... I doubt I'd do it now ... but it got me out of a jam .. It was a 15 amp circuit and I added the disposal through a 3-way switch to a single pole switch for the disposal .
- Location
- New Jersey
- Occupation
- Journeyman Electrician
pfalcon said:
NFPA70 said:
Disposals are always fastened in place. Dishwashers are usually fastened in place. OP says they are using cord-and-plug which means a blender, toaster, or other can be supplied. The above section doesn't care that you wired a switch in place; Their total fastened load can only be half of the ratings.
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