access panel

[anbm]

For gyp. ceiling we need to have access panel, which code address this item, it it NEC? Thanks!

 

[raider1]

The building codes regulate the requirement for access to concealed spaces.

Chris

 

[Pierre C Belarge]

I would take it one step further and say that once an access panel has been determined as necessary - for whatever the reason may be - then the building code addresses the specifics of the access panel installation.

 

[anbm]

Can you point out for me specific section of building code address this? Who is responsible for this? It it electrical engineer or architect? We had some recessed lights in gyp. ceiling and contractor said there is no access panel...

 

[electricmanscott]

What do you need access to?

 

[augie47]

The only section of the NEC that comes to mind where certain sized "access" panels is required is 600.21. There may be others, but I don't recall any.
Other equipment, junction boxes, etc are required to be accessible but no specifics are given.

The IRC Building Code requires access to certain attica in Section R807

 

[LarryFine]

We had some recessed lights in gyp. ceiling and contractor said there is no access panel...

Most recessed lights provide their own access. What kind of lights are they? Fluorescents or standard cans?

 

[anbm]

They are compact fluorescent downlight...so if we have to install (2) can lights in gyp. board ceiling - 8' apart using emt conduit, should we install conduit before gyp. ceiling in?

 

[LarryFine]

They are compact fluorescent downlight...so if we have to install (2) can lights in gyp. board ceiling - 8' apart using emt conduit, should we install conduit before gyp. ceiling in?

Absolutely!

Recessed fixtured don't require above-ceiling access after installation because the housing can be removed from the frame, and the J-box has a cover that faces the hole.

 

[construct]

Can you point out for me specific section of building code address this? Who is responsible for this?

2006 IBC section 1209.2 requires an opening to any attic area having a clear height of over 30 inches. 2006 IRC section R807.1 requires an attic access opening to attic areas that exceed 30 sf and have a vertical height of 30 inches or more (as Augie mentioned).

Architects will generally design one due to the fact that they want their drawings as code compliant as possible. However, it is the responsibility of the person doing the work to provide one, even if it is not shown on the drawings and the structure meets the above mentioned measurements. (At least in my neck of the woods

 

[480sparky]

Absolutely!

Recessed fixtured don't require above-ceiling access after installation because the housing can be removed from the frame, and the J-box has a cover that faces the hole.

Otherwise, a 2+story house would either have no cans on the first floor, or there would be a lot of little access panels required.

FWIW, removing recessed cans is an easy way to gain access to a ceiling for whatever reason, such as running new circuits and such.

 

[bobsherwood]

I do not like to work through a six inch hole to change a ballast and an emergency ballast. If a can light is install in dry wall, I require an access panel.
NFPA 70 E 130.6 (B) adresses "blind reaching". We do not do it on this campus.