Tyco Electronic

[1793]

Is the Tyco Electronic "Non-Metallic Splice Kit" acceptable to be concealed in a wall or does it have to remain accessible?

PS for image look at the Instruction sheet PDF.

 

[ceb58]

Is the Tyco Electronic "Non-Metallic Splice Kit" acceptable to be concealed in a wall or does it have to remain accessible?

PS for image look at the Instruction sheet PDF.

I dont think this one would be listed for concealed use. The application spec. says its for mobile homes, mfg. homes and rv. It also states for expose wireing methods.
They look like the connectors you find under a double wide or modular home to do the cross connect for the two halves.

 

[qcroanoke]

Is the Tyco Electronic "Non-Metallic Splice Kit" acceptable to be concealed in a wall or does it have to remain accessible?

PS for image look at the Instruction sheet PDF.

http://www.tycoelectronics.com/comm...14-10045BpdfEnglishENG_SS_114-10045_B.pdf

According to this PDF they appear to be only UL listed for use in accordance with
articles 545, 550 and 551 of the NEC.
I did see where they may be concealed by construction.

 

[ty]

I dont think this one would be listed for concealed use. The application spec. says its for mobile homes, mfg. homes and rv. It also states for expose wireing methods.
They look like the connectors you find under a double wide or modular home to do the cross connect for the two halves.

i agree.
For mobile/modular home use.

 

[mivey]

i agree.
For mobile/modular home use.

Like these?
Mobile Homes

 

[dmagyar]

I first saw these at the NECA convention in SF

I first saw these at the NECA convention in SF

I saw these connectors at the NECA convention in San Francisco a couple of years ago. I just went into a big box store (HD) and there they are on the shelves. Now Joe homeowner will be able to forego installing boxes for terminations. I don't know if these will go down in history as infamously as the "backstabbed" receptacles, but there's always hope. What a terrible idea. How would you ever find one of those burried under 12" of insulation in an attic? It's no surprise that they're being marketed to the un-educated public who could care less about what the NEC says, or the fine print on the package.

 

[1793]

I can see where there might be an application for these and I wanted to see what others thought and if anyone has had an opportunity to use them.

I'm not a big fan of Backstabbing but I see where it does have a purpose.

 

[stickboy1375]

ive used them and buried them in my own home.

 

[stickboy1375]

How would you ever find one of those burried under 12" of insulation in an attic?

Umm, so a regular jbox is easy to find under 12" of insulation?

 

[1793]

ive used them and buried them in my own home.

So, how did they work for you?

 

[480sparky]

Tyco Instruction Manual says it doesn't need a box, but are for mobile home/manufactured home only.

 

[stickboy1375]

So, how did they work for you?

Ive wired many modular homes, and those things get buried all over the place, they work fine, just like you would expect them to, and I believe they fall under 334.40 (B)

 

[ty]

Ive wired many modular homes, and those things get buried all over the place, they work fine, just like you would expect them to, and I believe they fall under 334.40 (B)

Modular and Mobile homes are built on a construction line.
There are inspectors on the line. these splices are inspected when installed.

 

[iwire]

You can use these in stick built homes.

 

[iwire]

See 334.40(B)

 

[1793]

You can use these in stick built homes.

See 334.40(B)

So the only real issue would be keeping them in an accessible location.

 

[ty]

See 334.40(B)

Not concealed as per the Listing.

Also, they could be 'surface mounted without an outlet box in exposed cable wiring...' IF used as the combination of type NM-1 and NM-3 connectors, as per the listing.

 

[dmagyar]

I never said it was easy, just possible

I never said it was easy, just possible

Umm, so a regular jbox is easy to find under 12" of insulation?

Nothing in the attic is easy, except maybe losing your favorite screwdriver or knife you just purchased.

 

[480sparky]

 

[iwire]

Not concealed as per the Listing.

They can be 'concealed' they just have to be accessible.