Box on a stick

[tonype]

This bothers me. The box is near a large sign on a commercial property (new construction). Owner said they got all approvals. In an concerned about damage from lawn maintenance and other activities.

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[cadpoint]

Why didn't they put it in the ground? What's supporting that box > ?
Schedule 80 is required to exposed in that sitution! What did you answer with?

 

[Jim W in Tampa]

Cant say i like it either but if that is an empty stick just holding box it meets code

 

[tonype]

Unfortunately, the owner (actually a non-technical staff member of the developer) did not have any specific technical knowledge but was adamant that "...we received the C of O and everything is ok...".

I am planning to report to the client (prospective purchaser) that a licensed electrical contractor must ensure this was installed properly.

 

[cadpoint]

I think there's are several NFPA-70 Code issues with this install, the drama of working with the uniformed is just that...

 

[joebell]

Wouldn't this apply?

314.23 Supports.

(E) Raceway Supported Enclosure, Without Devices, Luminaires, or Lampholders. An enclosure that does not contain a device(s) other than splicing devices or support a luminaire(s), lampholder, or other equipment and is supported by entering raceways shall not exceed 1650 cm3 (100 in.3) in size. It shall have threaded entries or have hubs identified for the purpose. It shall be supported by two or more conduits threaded wrenchtight into the enclosure or hubs. Each conduit shall be secured within 900 mm (3 ft) of the enclosure, or within 450 mm (18 in.) of the enclosure if all conduit entries are on the same side.

 

[220/221]

That's one of the most stupid things I've ever seen.


They have the right box but didn't bury it.

It will be broken in two months.

 

[Chamuit]

Wouldn't this apply?

314.23 Supports.

(E) Raceway Supported Enclosure, Without Devices, Luminaires, or Lampholders. An enclosure that does not contain a device(s) other than splicing devices or support a luminaire(s), lampholder, or other equipment and is supported by entering raceways shall not exceed 1650 cm3 (100 in.3) in size. It shall have threaded entries or have hubs identified for the purpose. It shall be supported by two or more conduits threaded wrenchtight into the enclosure or hubs. Each conduit shall be secured within 900 mm (3 ft) of the enclosure, or within 450 mm (18 in.) of the enclosure if all conduit entries are on the same side.

I've put a couple of these in. There aren't threaded hubs to be had here. Not sure if a TA with a locknut would satisfy.

If I remember the instructions, those are to be installed surface mounted or partially buried.

Who'd want to put their name on that?

 

[cadpoint]

I've put a couple of these in. There aren't threaded hubs to be had here. Not sure if a TA with a locknut would satisfy.

If I remember the instructions, those are to be installed surface mounted or partially buried.

Who'd want to put their name on that?

ME ... :roll::grin:

 

[Chamuit]

ME ... :roll::grin:

You're such a cad . . . . . . point. LOL

 

[macmikeman]

Wouldn't Scotchc..... oh wait, nevermind.......:grin:

 

[kwired]

see the snow in the upper right corner of the picture? guess what happens to this box when they start piling snow where the box is located.

 

[480sparky]

see the snow in the upper right corner of the picture? guess what happens to this box when they start piling snow where the box is located.

"Box? What box? Oh, yeah, there used to be a box there, I remember now. Musta been where those grey pipes are sticking up. I wonder what it was for?........."

 

[Dennis Alwon]

So drive a piece of PT 4x4 into the ground and support the box.

 

[A-1Sparky]

I think I would have mounted that box to some treated lumber and had it about 5' above ground. I also would have located it further away from the edge of the parking lot. That install is DOOMED.

 

[joebell]

What's in the box that requires it to be elevated above grade? I would have installed a handhole type of enclosure.

 

[sinbad]

forget the box. the guy who covered this trench should be fired

 

[hillbilly1]

What irk's me is when someone actually buries one of those boxes, without a quazite or at least a irrigation valve box covering it. Those are hard to find under 2' of dirt!