brother
Senior Member
Ok, here's the situation, I would like to know how your area inspectors enforce it.
There's this job where the contractor had to move a wall and of course the receptacles had to be relocated as well. There was this 1 special purpose receptacle (50amp) that was on #8 wire but the breaker was 70 amp. Basically oversized and a code violation. Need to down size breaker and a shutdown for that whole panel is needed.
The engineer only drew up the plan for moving receptacles etc.. no mention of the breaker at the panel ( I suppose it was assumed it was correct).. So when the bid was put in and the work done, the contractor only did what he bid for.
There's a debate on who's responsible for the code violation, I say the contractor is still responsible because he had to turn off the power to move the stuff and he 'touch' it and relocated, and installed a CODE VIOLATION'. Others claim that the contractor would have to bill the owner to correct it.
But I say NAY, he should have known better and he should have contacted the engineer and owner and let them know the situation and let them know it would be a 'change order' to relocate that 50 amp.
I say he should just eat the cost and call it a day, besides, its only replacing one breaker (even though its a very old panel) even though a shutdown and late night work would have to be done because of the other circuits in the panel that would affect other areas.
Others say the engineer should pay, others say just charge the owner. How does your area or how would you deal with it??. The contract seemed a little vague, but it did say contractor agrees to install to NEC codes.
There's this job where the contractor had to move a wall and of course the receptacles had to be relocated as well. There was this 1 special purpose receptacle (50amp) that was on #8 wire but the breaker was 70 amp. Basically oversized and a code violation. Need to down size breaker and a shutdown for that whole panel is needed.
The engineer only drew up the plan for moving receptacles etc.. no mention of the breaker at the panel ( I suppose it was assumed it was correct).. So when the bid was put in and the work done, the contractor only did what he bid for.
There's a debate on who's responsible for the code violation, I say the contractor is still responsible because he had to turn off the power to move the stuff and he 'touch' it and relocated, and installed a CODE VIOLATION'. Others claim that the contractor would have to bill the owner to correct it.
But I say NAY, he should have known better and he should have contacted the engineer and owner and let them know the situation and let them know it would be a 'change order' to relocate that 50 amp.
I say he should just eat the cost and call it a day, besides, its only replacing one breaker (even though its a very old panel) even though a shutdown and late night work would have to be done because of the other circuits in the panel that would affect other areas.
Others say the engineer should pay, others say just charge the owner. How does your area or how would you deal with it??. The contract seemed a little vague, but it did say contractor agrees to install to NEC codes.