Lay-in Fixtures No Grid?

[blingbling4r]

We have a customer who bought 13 troffer style 2x4 fixtures but can't afford to buy the grid that it goes in. This is an office style application.

Is it legal to just suspend the 2x4 troffer fixtures with jack chain or something until they get the money to buy the grid?

 

[chris kennedy]

410.6 now requires luminaires to be listed. (110.3(B)). I would wonder if what you purpose is in the installation instructions.

 

[cowboyjwc]

If you are in any kind of siesmic zone you may have a problem.

 

[Dennis Alwon]

Why wouldn't a troffer hung from building steel on chain not be allowed? Looks like you know what but I don't see an issue with it. I also think I would run from that job.

 

[chris kennedy]

Why wouldn't a troffer hung from building steel on chain not be allowed?

Those things are so flimsy if they are not perfectly level there is a good chance the lens and lamps could fall out.

I also think I would run from that job.

No doubt, this guy has put the cart before the horse.

 

[ceb58]

until they get the money to buy the grid?

If they cant afford the grid how can they afford to pay you to hang the lights? Run Forest Run

 

[cadpoint]

Where's jack chain's distance cousin, "Rod" ?... granted the bulk of a 2x4 is not very cosmic looking; there's a DMV office in a neighborhood Mall that has exactly that thing, using "Rod"...

Exposed structure to the ceiling, yes I studied it, it's high and tight, JMO

 

[Jim W in Tampa]

I would want my money upfront. The grid itself is not costly, the tiles are. Are they NEW fixtures ? Be carefull they could have problems like been fired up on wrong voltage. Do they have the required disconnects in them ? I think i would run fast.

 

[jumper]

Why wouldn't a troffer hung from building steel on chain not be allowed? Looks like you know what but I don't see an issue with it. I also think I would run from that job.

I agree with you.
Not an Nec issue AFAIK, unless maybe an 110.3(3)(B) install or listing 4xx one as Chris said.
but run, as also noted.

 

[Jim W in Tampa]

It also is making your job harder. After its out of the box it is like a 1 minute or less job to lay it in. Then depending on local demands needs grid wires or screws. Could be some liability issues if it springs open accidently. You have not followed install instructions so ahj could reject it. As far as fire or shock i see no issues. And when he gets the money to buy grid i bet the sub for that have electrician come back and raise them first. Then you can hope all the wires and chains still match up to his patern. Simply put its creating far more work for you before its over.