AC Condenser - Ground Fault Protection required?

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KentAT

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Does an outdoor AC condenser require GFP for the hermetically sealed motor-compressor?

I'm thinking "yes" from 440.21 (2005/2008), but I haven't found any threads mentioning GFP for AC condensers yet, so I'm wondering if I'm not thinking straight today...


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augie47

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The "ground fault protection" in 440.21 is the "standard" overload/short circuit protection provided by your off the shelf HACR breaker.
It is not the same as the personnel GF protection required in 210.8
 

KentAT

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I never thought of an HACR breaker as having ground fault protection. I thought their specialty was performance in group motor applications as found in air conditioning equipment (motor-compressor plus outdoor fan in a condenser unit, for example).

Wouldn't 440.21 require a GFP type breaker tripping at 30mA, such as:

-- Cutler-Hammer "Ground Fault Equipment Protectors — 30 mA Sensitivity
QUICKLAG Type: QPGFEP 10,000 Ampere I.C. Thermal-Magnetic Breakers"
-- ...or SquareD "QO-EPD/EPE circuit breakers provide overload and short
circuit protection combined with Class B ground fault
protection. They are designed to provide ground fault
protection of equipment at a 30 milliampere level (EPD) or
100 milliamp level (EPE). They are not designed to protect
people from electrical shock."

I guess I can't say 30mA or 100mA is required, because the Art. 100 definitions of Ground-Fault Prot of Equip doesn't specify a certain fault level, just that it is "...less than those required to protect conductors from damage through the operation of a supply circuit overcurrent device."


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augie47

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Best I can try to explain in my uneducated way is that if a cable can short phase to phase or it can short phase to ground. A phase to ground short would be a "ground fault". It can also be overloaded. The off the shelf breaker will protect against those occurrences. In addition, if the breaker is supplying air conditioning/refrigeration it needs to have a HACR listing

That has nothing to do with the 5ma Personnel Ground Fault protection or the 30 ma ground fault protection required for deicing and floor heat
 
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