MC to Liquidtight transition

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mr.power

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I have been doing transitions from one type of raceway or cable to another for the last 20 years. Where in the NEC can I go to to prove to an inspector that I am allowed to transition from MC to Liquidtight using the appropriate fittings to maintain continuity. He is insisting that I terminate the MC in a box first and then change over to liquidtight. The only code article that I can find on the subject is 300.12, but that doesn't help me unless I could use "continuos between fittings".
 

mcclary's electrical

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I have been doing transitions from one type of raceway or cable to another for the last 20 years. Where in the NEC can I go to to prove to an inspector that I am allowed to transition from MC to Liquidtight using the appropriate fittings to maintain continuity. He is insisting that I terminate the MC in a box first and then change over to liquidtight. The only code article that I can find on the subject is 300.12, but that doesn't help me unless I could use "continuos between fittings".

How are you making the transition? pipe coupling? Welcome to the forum
 
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Smart $

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I would hope so. That would have the tapered threads that a coupling doesn't.
I've not seen any thread type stipulation anywhere. Taking tapered vs. straight threads out of the picture, how would a 'C' fitting be any different than a threaded coupling regarding the connectors. These connectors are technically box connectors for terminating to a box or enclosure via a knockout hole.
 

RB1

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300.15 is the relevant code reference. Fittings identified for the use are permitted per 300.15(F). Generally speaking a box is required where the conductors are spliced, pulled, outlet points, etc.
 

mr.power

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Thanks guys. It looks like I'm going to have to install the boxes, unfortunately there are about a dozen roof fans wired this way that I have to change at NYC prevailing wage rates. Ouch!
 

Volta

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I've not seen any thread type stipulation anywhere. Taking tapered vs. straight threads out of the picture, how would a 'C' fitting be any different than a threaded coupling regarding the connectors. These connectors are technically box connectors for terminating to a box or enclosure via a knockout hole.

Well, I guess in actual text, I agree, but 344.42(B) prohibits couplings being used with running threads on conduit. This connector is not conduit, granted, but the intent may remain.

Otherwise, 300.15 could work for a picky person, but I'm trying to be less picky, personally :cool:. "Fittings and connectors shall only be used with the specific wiring methods for which they are designed and listed". Just a rewording of 110.3(B).

Also, if the wires from the MC are not labeled per 310.11, they cannot be used in a method other than MC.
 

Jim W in Tampa

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You might come out cheaper using using a pulling L . If you cut the wire then your forced to replace it as can't use unmarked wire of mc. And if you use a steel box you must ground it if you cut the wire. Your dealing with a by the book inspector and while many here disagree with him you simply can't win this one.
 

dicklaxt

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I wasn't thinking along the lines of the thread style but that he may classify the "C" fitiing as a box,but I suppose that is splitting hairs too.

Thinking about thread style,is a plain vanilla MC connector straight or running thread vs tapered,if so it would not legally tighten to a tapered thread but would need to be used with a double locknut as would be the case in a box and straight thread,,,,,,,,,just talking here, whatcha think.

I also think the tapered thead make up taper to taper allows the necessary 5 thread make up required for snuffing and cooling of an internal explosion so that an ignition source is not leaked into the atmosphere,just talking here as well.



dick
 

realolman

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No smaller than the throat of the connectors

I don't think I understand.

I was thinking you would splice the conductors, and the volume required for each conductor would probably be too large for a C or something like that... I guess you are figuring on not splicing them.
 
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