Laundry room outlet GFCI protected?
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kwired
Electron manager
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- NE Nebraska
There is another thread currently having this discussion.
If 2008 is the code you are following and there is no sink within 6 feet and you are not in an unfinished basement, a bathroom, a garage, or outdoors then no GFCI protection is required.
If 2008 is the code you are following and there is no sink within 6 feet and you are not in an unfinished basement, a bathroom, a garage, or outdoors then no GFCI protection is required.
Split Bolt
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- Northern Virginia
I have seen, in newer homes, the use of a single receptacle for washing machines in order to get around having GFCI protection in certain cases.
rcarroll
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- Fort Collins, Colorado
Not under the '08 code. If the washer outlet is within 6' of a sink, GFI protection is required. Single outlet or not.
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- Chapel Hill, NC
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- Retired Electrical Contractor
I agree but Va. is under the '05 I believe
rcarroll
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- Fort Collins, Colorado
Actually, the '05 code required outlets w/i 6' of laundry sinks. The '08 removed the exceptions for unfinished basements & garages.
I needed to clarify my previous post.
I needed to clarify my previous post.
Split Bolt
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- Northern Virginia
Yes, we are under the 2005 NEC still here in VA. I just noticed one thing about the original question though. Zappy stated "no sink anywhere."
electricguy61
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Aren't most stack units 30amp/230v/4wire?
No need for a GFCI.
No need for a GFCI.
kwired
Electron manager
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- NE Nebraska
I have seen them with 120 cord for washer portion of unit and you put your own 120/240 3 or 4 wire cord for dryer portion, just like individual dryers usually are.
electricmanscott
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- Boston, MA
Not all stack units are like the older types. Many are just two separate appliances with a stack kit.
electricguy61
Senior Member
Perhaps I should have said "what does the unit require?"
Many are a single 230v/30amp/4 wire, but as noted, some may be separate circuits. Find out the specs.
And, as I stated on another thread (as have many others), what's the big deal about supplying a $12 GFCI outlet? I'll go toe-to-toe with an inspector if it's a large problem, but on little ones like this, I've found it best to pick my battles.
kwired
Electron manager
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- NE Nebraska
cheap receptacles are only 69 cents.
GFCI's have that reset thingy that may be a problem someday
you have to think like average person not an electrician
:grin::grin::grin:
jaylectricity
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- Massachusetts
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- licensed journeyman electrician
Also gas dryers only require 120.
Split Bolt
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- Northern Virginia
20 amp receptacles cost more than 69 cents. There is one jurisdiction here that makes you use 20 amp duplex receptacles on laundry, microwave or refrigerator circuits where there is only 1 receptacle. I have argued with them MANY times over the years about the fine print note (FPN) mentioned in the NEC. 210.21 (B) (1) {2005 NEC} and pointed out that a duplex receptacle is not a single receptacle by code. After years of arguing, I found it was easier to just use 20A duplex receptacles. Now, I use them on ALL of the 20 amp circuits. That makes me look good compared to other guys! After all, it is the right thing to do!
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- Chapel Hill, NC
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- Retired Electrical Contractor
Virginia is for lovers not electricians.. I think that there are many ec'c and inspectors who have made this same mistake or misinterpretation.
I think that there are many ec'c and inspectors who have made this same mistake or misinterpretation.- Status