uf wire

[wireman1]

is the ground wire in uf wire considered to be a covered wire and can it be used to feed the swimming pool light when it is brought into the deck box, provided it is in emt or pvc conduit for phyical protection site code article thanks

 

[Jim W in Tampa]

unless it has a green wire in it i would say no.

 

[raider1]

The ground wire in UF cable is NOT considered insulated, it is enclosed within the outer sheath of the UF cable.

UF cable is not permitted as branch circuit wiring for underwater luminaires. Check out 680.23(F).

Chris

 

[LarryFine]

Covered, as in NM cable, yes. Insulated, as in MC cable, no.

 

[Dennis Alwon]

I agree with Larry. Uf is covered, not insulated, as is required by the NEC for pool lights.680.23(F)(2). Also see 680.23(F)(1) for approved raceways. EMT is only approved where installed on buildings, not underground.

 

[iwire]

Read what Smart $ has to say in this thread starting at post 15 and you might change your mind.:grin:


http://forums.mikeholt.com/showthread.php?t=120205

 

[hotwire1955]

once you split the jacket to make connections the ground wire is no longer covered or insulated.

 

[iwire]

once you split the jacket to make connections the ground wire is no longer covered or insulated.

Once you strip a conductor to terminate it is no longer covered or insulated.:grin:

 

[Dennis Alwon]

once you split the jacket to make connections the ground wire is no longer covered or insulated.

I agree and I have not changed my mind. I did, however, change my shirt. :grin:

 

[iwire]

I agree and I have not changed my mind. I did, however, change my shirt. :grin:

Personally I think smart is correct about what the words really say.

I don't think I would want to argue the point with any inspector.:grin:

 

[jwelectric]

Personally I think smart is correct about what the words really say.

Could this statement be used in all cases when discussing the NEC or does it only count now?

 

[jwelectric]

Personally I think smart is correct about what the words really say.

Could this statement be used in all cases when discussing the NEC or does it only count now?

Am I being ignored or is the question to hard to answer?

 

[Dennis Alwon]

Am I being ignored or is the question to hard to answer?

Hard to say- I assumed it was addressed to Bob but I thought it was a rhetorical question.

 

[hotwire1955]

Once you strip a conductor to terminate it is no longer covered or insulated.:grin:

only if you don't put something over your connection

 

[RB1]

I must disagree with Smart$. Although the definition for insulated conductors refers to the encasement by a material recognized by the code as insulation, 90.7 provides the basis for that recognition. The insulation of the circuit conductors in a UF cable assembly complies with UL 83 for thermoplastic insulation. The cable jacket is not tested to that standard. The equipment grounding conductor is typically bare as Don stated.

 

[jwelectric]

Hard to say- I assumed it was addressed to Bob but I thought it was a rhetorical question.

I was just wondering if the books says what it says all the time or if it says what it says part of the time and the rest of the time this is what it meant to say or what we want it to say.

Several times I have quoted the book verbatim only to be told how stupid I am so I was just wondering if

what the words really say.

is what the words say verbatim or if it is what we want them to say.

 

[iwire]

Could this statement be used in all cases when discussing the NEC or does it only count now?

Am I being ignored or is the question to hard to answer?

Let your imagination run wild.

 

[LarryFine]

Am I being ignored or is the question to hard to answer?

Both? :grin:

 

[jwelectric]

Let your imagination run wild.

My dear friend I do believe that most would agree that I already do this.

Both?

Spoken just like my wife. She says that it is best to just ignore me as my questions are too hard to understand, in so much as the make little or no sense at all therefore no answer.

 

[Dennis Alwon]

Mike- the code says what it says it's just difficult for the us to know exactly what is being said or what the intent is. :grin:

If there is anything I learned on this forum it is the fact that the English language is extremely difficult.