Old work steel boxes
- Thread starter Telc
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- Simi Valley, CA
I prefer the tiger grip. I never had much luck with the other one.
lakee911
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- Location
- Columbus, OH
Good point on tighter hole....I've never tried that type. I've only ever used option two.
Sierrasparky
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- Location
- USA
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- Electrician ,contractor
I don't like the version of 2. those folding brackets are junk. I was weined on the flip out style.
Try to re-use those if you need to pull another wire or something.
Try to re-use those if you need to pull another wire or something.
- Location
- Simi Valley, CA
- Location
- Chapel Hill, NC
- Occupation
- Retired Electrical Contractor
I don't like either- I would rather use madison clips.
renosteinke
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- Location
- NE Arkansas
A second vote for the Madison / "battleship" clips.
Third vote for the madison / battleship / box support / f-strap / ice skates / rabbit ears / steamboat / two men in a boat / hold-its / box cleat.
The U-grip and tiger are dedicated boxes, and cannot be used for much else other than old work. A standard box has many other uses, and keeps me from having to carry a bunch of different types of boxes around on the van.
The U-grip and tiger are dedicated boxes, and cannot be used for much else other than old work. A standard box has many other uses, and keeps me from having to carry a bunch of different types of boxes around on the van.
- Location
- New Jersey
- Occupation
- Journeyman Electrician
None of the above. We prefer the T&B OWC or old work clips. Although lately the supply house has been sending some knockoffs that strip on insertion. We usually throw those in the dumpster and reorder by part number with no substitutions.
teco
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- Mass north shore
Mad bars or 1x5s ws if there is lathe
- Location
- Simi Valley, CA
I don't like either- I would rather use madison clips.
I've really never had any luck with these.
What kind of issues have you had? Only time I have seen problems is with you have a outlet that gets alot of use and plugged into alot. The Madisons can dig into the back of the sheetrock and it can loosen up or break the sheetrock.
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- Simi Valley, CA
busman
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- Location
- Northern Virginia
- Occupation
- Master Electrician / Electrical Engineer
Certainly the tiger grip is the only solution for masonry walls.
Mark
Mark
dhalleron
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- Location
- Louisville, KY
I vote for the same, but I thought they were Jiffy Hangers or Patton Hangers or Madison Straps.
al hildenbrand
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- Location
- Minnesota
- Occupation
- Electrical Contractor, Electrical Consultant, Electrical Engineer
I'll add the sixth or seventh vote for the Madison Strips.
And as for their name, I've always known them as EZEins (pronounced "easy ins").
I like that the push-pull receptacle use forces are confined in a straight line through the drywall between the plaster ear and the EZEin. In both the U-grip and tiger grip the push-pull force is in a diagonal through the drywall. The longer the lever, the greater the force on the drywall.
Have to say, until Mark's comment about masonry, I didn't think there was any use at all for the "tiger grips".
And, in my opinion, the key to an installation that withstands heavy receptacle stresses is to carefully cut to leave the greatest amount of undisturbed wall under the plaster ears and to pull up the EZEins snug with no looseness. . . . That said, if the forces are going to be truly heavy, mounting beside a stud and using an entirely different type of box is the only solution.
B4T
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- Location
- Long Island, N.Y.
I don't like either- I would rather use madison clips.
I just did (10) wall sconces using madison straps and they always work just fine and are easy to take apart if there are changes.
chris kennedy
Senior Member
- Location
- Miami Fla.
- Occupation
- 60 yr old tool twisting electrician
Another Madison fan. I will add I always remove the top and bottom holding brackets, take my klines and pull the 6/32 ears back to 90? from the face of the box then reinstall the brackets evenly and slightly forward of the face.
walkerj
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- Baton Rouge
I didn't think there was any other way than F-clips
I do what Chris does
I do what Chris does
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