Old work steel boxes

[brian john]

I guess I am old school really prefer madison straps.

 

[juptonstone]

U-Support?

U-Support?

I'm not sure what the metal thing off the side is... I never use the boxes with the built in "screw" type supports on the sides... I always have used the standard metal box with Madison bars... super tight fit and never comes loose!

 

[dlhoule]

Plaster Walls

Plaster Walls

I do a lot of work with wood lath and plaster walls. Frequently between the the lath and plaster the ear of Madison clamp is not long enough to use this method. However, I can usually chip out some plaster and use both the clamps and some small wood screws for mounting with an extension added to the box to get out flush with wall.

 

[al hildenbrand]

Frequently between the the lath and plaster the ear of Madison clamp is not long enough to use this method.

One can fold four Madisons into two extended Madisons . . . I'll get a photo in a bit.

 

[220/221]

I used madison straps......in 1975

The tiger grips are too much to fuss with as the wires interfere with the clamps.

The other style of side support box seeks to leave too big of a hole.

The only decent metal box I've seen has the clamp toggle things at the two corners, similar to a plastic cut in box. I can't remember the mfg/model # but they are as good as it gets.

Pretty much the only box I float is an occaisional switch box. A recep needs to be more secure IMO.

 

[LarryFine]

I've mounted steel old-work boxes the old-fashioned way. I exposed the wood lath above and below the box hole, turned the top and bottom ears around to bring the face of the box flush, and drove small sheet-metal screws into pilot-drilled holes in the lath.

 

[earlejohnson]

f clips

f clips

i call them f clips and i always cut the ears off the device and tape it

 

[al hildenbrand]

One can fold four Madisons into two extended Madisons.

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[Oakey]

I don't like either- I would rather use madison clips.

My thoughts

 

[LarryFine]

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I like it!



One could even cascade three or more.

 

[al hildenbrand]

One could even cascade three or more.

Yup. . . .

 

[readydave8]

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That is brilliant.

 

[jaylectricity]

Wow, thanks for sharing Al...I'll be sure to use that in the future. Lots of wood lathe and plaster around here, some of it with drywall screwed into that!

 

[ofourcobra]

That's cool but they do sell long madison bars around here

 

[al hildenbrand]

That's cool but they do sell long madison bars around here

:grin:

I bet mine is longer than yours.

Imagine folding one more, i.e., three madisons in a link. . .

 

[lakee911]

Lots of wood lathe and plaster around here, some of it with drywall screwed into that!

I hate that ... pick one ... drywall over plaster and lath or lath is just a PITA.

 

[LarryFine]

Imagine folding one more, i.e., three madisons in a link. . .

I did:

One could even cascade three or more.