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I see your point, but show me a single gang box -by itself- that you can mount this 50 amp device with 3 #6 and 1 #10 ground and I will concede. If not, it gets a two device allowance.
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I see your point, but show me a single gang box -by itself- that you can mount this 50 amp device with 3 #6 and 1 #10 ground and I will concede. If not, it gets a two device allowance.
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One yolk is one device. One device is two times the conductor connecting to it for your box fill. That's it. There is no times four when connecting one device.
There is only times four or more when there are two or more devices to connect to in the box.
There is only times four or more when there are two or more devices to connect to in the box.
314.16(B)(4) Device or Equipment Fill. For each yoke or strap containing
one or more devices or equipment, a double volume
allowance in accordance with Table 314.16(B) shall be made
for each yoke or strap based on the largest conductor connected
to a device(s) or equipment supported by that yoke or
strap. A device or utilization equipment wider than a single
50 mm (2 in.) device box as described in Table 314.16(A)
shall have double volume allowances provided for each gang
required for mounting.
one or more devices or equipment, a double volume
allowance in accordance with Table 314.16(B) shall be made
for each yoke or strap based on the largest conductor connected
to a device(s) or equipment supported by that yoke or
strap. A device or utilization equipment wider than a single
50 mm (2 in.) device box as described in Table 314.16(A)
shall have double volume allowances provided for each gang
required for mounting.
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Holy Cow!! What year is that?
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2008 .
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Stink. My '08 is in the truck, I keep my '05 at the desk. Time to go buy an '11 and move the '05 into the attic.
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My 'puter is more of a putzer. It's a '98.
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TI all the way. Nothing but the best.
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I agree. :thumbsup:
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masterinbama
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IBM 8088 with a monochrome monitor? (I actually have one of these that will boot up and run)
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I believe all flush range receptacles and maybe dryer receptacles as well are wider than 2"
See this P&S link.
http://www.legrand.us/passandseymou...ntial-power-outlets/flush-mount/30a/3864.aspx
Width 2.5".
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The device that is in the box is not wider than 2". The yoke of the device is larger but it is not inside the box. Nit picking but perhaps you are correct. I wonder if it is larger than a gfci recep. Seems ridiculous to count the mounting part.
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Well the dryer is a .7" deeper than a gfci. Edit. Looks like P&S has made them shallower then the ones I have downstairs.
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I think the code reference is towards the box, not the device.
A device or utilization equipment wider than a single 50 mm (2 in.) device box as described in Table 314.16(A) shall have double volume allowances provided for each gang required for mounting.
I doubt any devices will be listed in T314.16(A).
A device or utilization equipment wider than a single 50 mm (2 in.) device box as described in Table 314.16(A) shall have double volume allowances provided for each gang required for mounting.
I doubt any devices will be listed in T314.16(A).
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Agreed- if it fits in a one gang box then it counts as one device. But Bob is saying that the device is larger because of the bracket. I don't buy that but I see his logic.
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