Shallow Recessed Cans

[sparky76]

I've got a project where the H.O. would like to install some recessed lighting in an existing vaulted ceiling w/ wood paneling. The room has the fake beam look.

The problem is the depth clearance is only 3 5/8" so I can't a traditional 6" or even 4" or 3" can in there. I thought of undercabinet type cans in about a 2" size, but they don't put out a lot of lumens. I'm willing to do incandescent or LED.

I want to get light output similar to a 75W par30 in a 6" Halo H7 and if I have to do 2 or 3 smaller cans to get the equivalent, it is an option.

Any ideas..?

 

[JOHNEO99]

Are they going to be remodel or new construction cans? Is there insulation where the housing will be installed? The smallest I found were 4.25" deep with an mr16 bulb.

 

[emmet]

The smaller halogen puck lights are pretty bright (undercabinet) and work without a transformer, but if the ceiling is too high, the lumen output won't be enough. Have you hunted around online?

 

[John120/240]

You mentioned a vaulted cieling, do you have a plan to get wires where they need to go ?

Just my two cents.

 

[sparky76]

You mentioned a vaulted cieling, do you have a plan to get wires where they need to go ?

Just my two cents.

John-

My plan is to run romex on top of the false beam (not visible) and then i would drill into the bays as needed. The bays appear to be open, but I haven't verified that for certain. Where the romex is visible going from the beam into the T&G, I'll cover it with wiremold.

 

[sparky76]

Are they going to be remodel or new construction cans? Is there insulation where the housing will be installed? The smallest I found were 4.25" deep with an mr16 bulb.

These are remodel cans. Non IC rated.

 

[Dennis Alwon]

I would never install a recessed can in a ceiling with 3 5/8" clearance. Install some mono point track heads or some tracks.

 

[Fulthrotl]

I've got a project where the H.O. would like to install some recessed lighting in an existing vaulted ceiling w/ wood paneling. The room has the fake beam look.

The problem is the depth clearance is only 3 5/8" so I can't a traditional 6" or even 4" or 3" can in there. I thought of undercabinet type cans in about a 2" size, but they don't put out a lot of lumens. I'm willing to do incandescent or LED.

I want to get light output similar to a 75W par30 in a 6" Halo H7 and if I have to do 2 or 3 smaller cans to get the equivalent, it is an option.

Any ideas..?

there are some shallow 4" remodel cans i used last week that might fit in there.... i think eilite made them... they use a standard spring loaded trim,
and a 50 watt mr-16.. sorry but i didn't measure the depth, but i think they are designed to fit in a 2x4 void... they are pretty shallow.

NOT ic rated.

you say paneling, but do you mean shiplap? that is 5/8" thick, and gives you some wiggle room... but 1/8" paneling over sheetrock comes out the same...

 

[Fulthrotl]

I've got a project where the H.O. would like to install some recessed lighting in an existing vaulted ceiling w/ wood paneling. The room has the fake beam look.

The problem is the depth clearance is only 3 5/8" so I can't a traditional 6" or even 4" or 3" can in there. I thought of undercabinet type cans in about a 2" size, but they don't put out a lot of lumens. I'm willing to do incandescent or LED.

I want to get light output similar to a 75W par30 in a 6" Halo H7 and if I have to do 2 or 3 smaller cans to get the equivalent, it is an option.

Any ideas..?

i was at the lighting trade show at the LA convention center last week, and they have some 5" LED "can lights" that go into a 2
gang box, and protrude about half an inch below the surface of the ceiliing.... they are under $60 each, and are equal to a 65 watt par lamp...
i'll see if i can get a catalog number....

edit:

lighting science makes something called "glimpse"....

http://www.lsgc.com/interior/glimpse/

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in application, the Glimpse can be retrofit into 5” or 6” recessed downlights by simply replacing the existing Edison
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750 lumen WW package provides up to 20% more light than similar competitor offerings
Available in 2700, 3000, 4000K
Dimmable down to 5%
Designed for a 50,000 hour life
Consumes just 15 watts
Uses 70% less material in design than a standard downlighting system
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