Service to electric stove

[tonype]

New one for me. Bare grounding conductor for cable to electric stove split out through sheathing and attached to gas pipe before continuing on to stove. Unfortunately, I could not move stove to view in more detail. Was this a "legit" way of doing things at one time? Is it still?

 

[tonype]

One other thing - conductors lack sheathing from the point where grounding conductor is separated.

 

[John120/240]

What was the point to bond to the gas pipe ? Did the ground in this cable terminate to the ground bus in the panel ?

 

[tonype]

What was the point to bond to the gas pipe ? Did the ground in this cable terminate to the ground bus in the panel ?

Yes

 

[Gregg Harris]

New one for me. Bare grounding conductor for cable to electric stove split out through sheathing and attached to gas pipe before continuing on to stove. Unfortunately, I could not move stove to view in more detail. Was this a "legit" way of doing things at one time? Is it still? View attachment 8117

The 1/2 bushing is also a no- no IFGC 403.10.4

 

[tonype]

The 1/2 bushing is also a no- no IFGC 403.10.4

Thanks for eyeballing that one - I did not even notice it - too busy looking at the electric.

 

[Cavie]

I don't believe that duck tape was ever approved for connecting wire to anything.

 

[tonype]

I don't believe that duck tape was ever approved for connecting wire to anything.

I could not determine what was going on under the tape - out of reach.

 

[kwired]

I'm a little confused at exactly we are looking at in the photo.

Is the concentric bare conductor completely pulled out from under sheath and run to gas pipe? If so how did the range get a neutral and/or equipment ground?

Or did they just pull part of it out to run to gas pipe and run rest to range? Probably still not ever allowed to do.

No matter what I don't believe tape was the way to secure the bond to the pipe if it was necessary to bond to the pipe for any reason.

 

[tonype]

Is the concentric bare conductor completely pulled out from under sheath and run to gas pipe? If so how did the range get a neutral and/or equipment ground?

No matter what I don't believe tape was the way to secure the bond to the pipe if it was necessary to bond to the pipe for any reason.

From what I could tell, entire bare conductor was pulled out.

 

[kwired]

From what I could tell, entire bare conductor was pulled out.

So this range had no neutral or EGC (assuming three wire circuit which would have been acceptable at one time)? I see that as a bigger problem than anything else that may have went on with this install. Unless there was no 120 volt loads in the range, there would have been 120 volts from frame of the range to anything grounded within reach and people would get shocked when touching both at same time. (Usually there was at least a 120 volt clock on most older ranges that would have made this 120 volt present all the time)

 

[tonype]

So this range had no neutral or EGC (assuming three wire circuit which would have been acceptable at one time)? I see that as a bigger problem than anything else that may have went on with this install. Unless there was no 120 volt loads in the range, there would have been 120 volts from frame of the range to anything grounded within reach and people would get shocked when touching both at same time. (Usually there was at least a 120 volt clock on most older ranges that would have made this 120 volt present all the time)

This is a newer (maybe 10 to 15 years) range, with LCD clock.

 

[kwired]

This is a newer (maybe 10 to 15 years) range, with LCD clock.

But how old is the wiring in the picture? Looks like the old cloth covered SE cable.

 

[tonype]

But how old is the wiring in the picture? Looks like the old cloth covered SE cable.

Yeah - older wiring - I guess it was re-used when the new stove was installed.