Your contract is between you and the owner. Make owner go after reimbursement if he wants to do so. Owner is the one who contracted the door to be installed in the first place. That project should have had separate permit, and separate wiring permit if necessary in the first place. This guy did not do wiring under your permit, he did wiring with no permit. It is not your problem other than to report his activity to AHJ if you feel like doing so.
Yes.
I don't think he was saying it was your problem. I think he was just underlining the positives of requiring permits.
but what does free repairs have to do with whether or not a permit was issued, outside of maybe correcting violations that were found by inspector. Good installers, however do not have to worry much about correcting violations as they generally get it right the first time.
Nothing as long as the contractor has integrity and the repair was for the contractor's own work.
And with or without a permit the contractor is not obligated to making free repairs down the road either. Warranty of a particular installation is a different issue, and has nothing to do with permits or inspections.
Down the road repairs is a different issue.
The non compliant part was not the permit holders work, he is not responsible for anything done associated with the non permitted work. Owner is free to ask him to repair it, but not at no cost.
Again permit holder did nothing wrong here. Go after the guy that did not pull a permit not the one who did things right, and then someone came in behind him and messed it up.
That is what the OP was talking about and I agree. Rick was talking about a different scenario where non-compliant work is done under a permit.
Exactly. That is what we are saying.
But they are a determining factor in deciding if you got what you paid for.
To some extent yes. You can still be overcharged and have substandard work, or get decent work at a modest price. There are incompetent inspectors out there also.
Say it ain't so.:jawdrop:
Originally Posted by kwired
Again permit holder did nothing wrong here. Go after the guy that did not pull a permit not the one who did things right, and then someone came in behind him and messed it up.
Who pays for what is outside the scope of what AHJ is all about. Any disagreements on charges eventually may go to court of law, not the AHJ. Any AHJ that tells a contractor they are to do something for no charge has overstepped their authority. They are only there to enforce codes not contracts or commerce laws.
No offense to the 1 or 2 NJ inspectors who actually do their job the right way :lol::lol:
Between my own experiences, what I have been told by other ECs and customers in real life, and what I have read from other ECs online- NJ inspectors stick their noses in all kinds of places that they do not belong. Telling customers that they paid too much, giving negative opinions on the work even though they passed it and said it was code compliant, talking about what other ECs usually do and how the EC on that person's house should have done it that way (opinionated but not code), telling customers to demand extras be included because they normally come as part of the original bid, etc. etc.
Sounds like most of them are likely disgruntled contractors that couldn't make it as a contractor and then got a job as an inspector.