Circuit switching assistance

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ritelec

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relayas3-wayswitch.gif

Thank you Smart

Sure looks like it.

Please to confirm I'm seeing it right.....The no contact is the contactor load feeding the coil of a new single pole double throw relay. (acting as a 3 way).
 

GoldDigger

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HI Smart

Thats up to the OP he could just add this one still would work.

Ronald :)
But for all of these solutions, if the light is off currently, the homeowner will always need to change the state of the RF relay to turn the lights on. Not just press the lights-on button. If he is OK with that, you have a solution.

But if he needs the RF on button to always turn the light on, regardless of which combination of switches was used to turn it off, none of these circuits will work.
 

Smart $

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But for all of these solutions, if the light is off currently, the homeowner will always need to change the state of the RF relay to turn the lights on. Not just press the lights-on button. If he is OK with that, you have a solution.

But if he needs the RF on button to always turn the light on, regardless of which combination of switches was used to turn it off, none of these circuits will work.
Yeah, that is one caveat. If the lights are on, the remote control's ON will turn them OFF.
 

gar

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GoldDigger:

My solution retains the on-off meaning of the remote.

I did not describe the means to generate the two different pulses, but there are various ways to do it. One way is to use 1 on-delay timer, and 1 off-delay timer.

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ritelec

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Thank you all.
I greatly appreciate the input.
I believe I will be adding the single pole double throw relay
If the owner doesn't go for the off being on and on being off
I will return about the other options.
Thank you again gents
Rich
 

ritelec

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Type of load relay/contactor

Type of load relay/contactor

Load question..........

I'm not sure if I will set up relay as 3-way or 4-way but the relay load will be 3 low voltage pool light transformers.

I have access to the 3-way relay which is rated in HP.
A cube relay which rating is unknown.
And a 4 pole contactor rated 80 amps rated for ind. cap. res. loads.

Question is, do you think the 3-way rated in HP and amperage would be proper to use in this circ. (15/20 amp 120v transformer)....
Or should I pick up the 4 pole contactor?

Thank you
 

Smart $

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Load question..........

I'm not sure if I will set up relay as 3-way or 4-way but the relay load will be 3 low voltage pool light transformers.

I have access to the 3-way relay which is rated in HP.
A cube relay which rating is unknown.
And a 4 pole contactor rated 80 amps rated for ind. cap. res. loads.

Question is, do you think the 3-way rated in HP and amperage would be proper to use in this circ. (15/20 amp 120v transformer)....
Or should I pick up the 4 pole contactor?

Thank you
For a 15/20A circuit, I think the cube relay is sufficient, dependent on its rating, of course. The 80A 4-pole contactor is overkill.
 

glene77is

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Guys,
Anybody ever "roll their own" contactor ?

Has anyone ever paralleled several contactors (by paralleling the coils),
so that you could cross-cross and share the contact/switches,
in effect making up independent controls for several different light circuits
off of a "single" contactor ?

One circuit could be controlled as Single-Pole,
One circuit could be controlled as Four-Way,
One circuit could be control for an indicator light.
All off a "single" contactor which is sharing load contact/switches.

Just having fun over a cup of breakfast coffee ? :slaphead:
 

eHunter

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Guys,
Anybody ever "roll their own" contactor ?

Has anyone ever paralleled several contactors (by paralleling the coils),
so that you could cross-cross and share the contact/switches,
in effect making up independent controls for several different light circuits
off of a "single" contactor ?

One circuit could be controlled as Single-Pole,
One circuit could be controlled as Four-Way,
One circuit could be control for an indicator light.
All off a "single" contactor which is sharing load contact/switches.

Just having fun over a cup of breakfast coffee ? :slaphead:

Not a "roll your own" contactor, but the task is accomplished with a reversing contactor.

View attachment TeSys_D_LC2D0935FE7.pdf
 
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