Does it mean you can feed a nonlinear load with a common grounded wire?!!!:?
Neutral for each Phase
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jumper
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Yes. The informational note is not enforceable.
210.4 Multiwire Branch Circuits.
(A) General. Branch circuits recognized by this article shall
be permitted as multiwire circuits. A multiwire circuit shall be
permitted to be considered as multiple circuits. All conductors
of a multiwire branch circuit shall originate from the same
panelboard or similar distribution equipment.
Informational Note: A 3-phase, 4-wire, wye-connected power
system used to supply power to nonlinear loads may necessitate
that the power system design allow for the possibility of
high harmonic currents on the neutral conductor.
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Yes, and it is a very common instatallion. In some cases the common grounded conductor is larger than the phase conductors, but not always.
jumper
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I get specs for a #10 neutral to the first break off junction point on a 20A MWBC for fluorescent lights, computers, and such a lot.
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Specs that were influenced by the Copper Development Association
jumper
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Specs that were influenced by the Copper Development Association
Prolly, it is when I get a spec for a #10 EGC for the same circuit that I get really irked.
Especially since it is usually ran in bonded EMT/RMC.:rant:
Do you pay attention to that? I know for some places, for example hazzerdious locations or pools, you may need it. But when you get a store or residential work and the architect states "EMT with grounding conductor" do you put it in, or let the EMT be the ground?
Thanks
Mike
Thanks
Mike
jumper
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I work for a defense contractor on projects for the military, so yeah-I pay attention.
I do not have a clue as far as value engineering a store or resi project, previously I worked for a college.
I have not done a resi project since around 2000-2001 or standard commercial since 2010.
IMO only stamped EE drawings are enforceable, not architects or designers.
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If the design calls for the EGC, then you provide and install it.
kwired
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The service and/or any feeders do use a single grounded conductor, if there is harmonic concerns it may be sized same or even larger than ungrounded conductors.
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