Yellow neutral wires

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bunuelbresson

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Detroit, MI
Hi,

A contractor installed yellow neutral wires on a 3 phase 4 wire system instead of white.

Do you guys think this is acceptable or should the contractor re-pull white wires?
There are 15 neutrals in the pannel overall.

Thanks.
 

ggunn

PE (Electrical), NABCEP certified
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Austin, TX, USA
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Consulting Electrical Engineer - Photovoltaic Systems
Hi,

A contractor installed yellow neutral wires on a 3 phase 4 wire system instead of white.

Do you guys think this is acceptable or should the contractor re-pull white wires?
There are 15 neutrals in the pannel overall.

Thanks.
It's a code violation, I believe, unless they are taped white (if they are large enough to do that ).
 

cadpoint

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Location
Durham, NC
A Neutral is one of the few Colors that is called out in the NFPA; see Article 200.6.

I don't think they made any exception as you described in you OP.

Now if your in Europe or even Britian, you miles may very.
 

Nycedreemz

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Location
North Carolina
Hi,

A contractor installed yellow neutral wires on a 3 phase 4 wire system instead of white.

Do you guys think this is acceptable or should the contractor re-pull white wires?
There are 15 neutrals in the pannel overall.

Thanks.

Unless the conductors are large enough to re-identify then i would consider it a violation. Not sure what voltage your 3phase system is but, on a 480v system yellow is the third phase conductors color.

It would be evident as soon as you open the panel what those yellows were doing but if I were to run across that same yellow in a junction box i could troubleshoot incorrectly by assuming that yellow was a "HOT" instead of neutral.

In my opinion neutrals should be white, gray or if large enough re-identified with white tape.
 

cowboyjwc

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Location
Simi Valley, CA
Unless the conductors are large enough to re-identify then i would consider it a violation. Not sure what voltage your 3phase system is but, on a 480v system yellow is the third phase conductors color.

It would be evident as soon as you open the panel what those yellows were doing but if I were to run across that same yellow in a junction box i could troubleshoot incorrectly by assuming that yellow was a "HOT" instead of neutral.

In my opinion neutrals should be white, gray or if large enough re-identified with white tape.

That's not necessarly correct, it might be a trade practice, but it's not a code requirement.
 

Nycedreemz

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Location
North Carolina
200.6 (A) An insulated grounded conductor size 6 AWG or smaller shall be identified like this
1. A continuous white outer finish
2. A continuous gray outer finish
3. Three continuous white stripes along the entire length other than green insulation
4. Wires that have their outer covering finished to show a white or grey color but have a colored tracer to identify the manufacturer meet this provision
 

Nycedreemz

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North Carolina
That's not necessarily correct, it might be a trade practice, but it's not a code requirement.

My fault, not trying to spread mis-information. I just follow the B_O_Y term when wiring 480V systems. The color of the conductor is indeed not determined by code. I was just giving a fairly common example of how an inconvenience can come up from the OP's situation.
 

cowboyjwc

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My fault, not trying to spread mis-information. I just follow the B_O_Y term when wiring 480V systems. The color of the conductor is indeed not determined by code. I was just giving a fairly common example of how an inconvenience can come up from the OP's situation.
And I agreed with everything else you said.:)
 
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