Joseph Alexander
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When an Ufer ground is placed do you still need the supplemental ground rod? 2011- 250.53 would lead me to think that you do not.
UFER PLUS GROUND ROD
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Lectricbota
Senior Member
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- Rocky Mountain Region
No, you don't.
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- Bremerton, Washington
And there is the advantage of a ufer ground.
Ditto same here. You could have a full ground ring, Ufer, and radials. POCO could careless because if you do not have a rod below their meter, you do not get connected. Motto here is drive two rods, call it a day, and collect a check.
mwm1752
Senior Member
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- Aspen, Colo
UFUR is a stand alone electrode and should pass any NEC inspection -- still have to attach all availiable elctrodes to the system -- A POCO standard is above & beyond but would have to be installed for their standard --
kwired
Electron manager
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- NE Nebraska
Are they particular that it be a rod, or can you land the GEC from the CEE at the meter and make them happy? I have done this before - even with POCO's that want to see a "ground rod" connection at the meter. There main concern is usually to have whatever lightning protection the electrode will provide for their metering equipment.
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- Chapel Hill, NC
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- Retired Electrical Contractor
I have never seen a power company dig up to look for a rod. They see the CONCRETE ENCASED ELECTRODE wire and have no idea where it is connected to but they also don't specifically ask for rods.
kwired
Electron manager
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- NE Nebraska
Same here. You could run a wire into the earth and just end it shortly below the surface and most POCO employees would never bother to investigate any further.
stickboy1375
Senior Member
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- Litchfield, CT
Lucky guys, we are not allowed to enter the meter with the GEC in my area?..
Same goes for the areas we normally work.I usually install the the grounding rod near or say within a foot or two of the UFER /rebar and bond together.Is there any violation to this type install?For instance if there is no rebar/UFER present then the grounding rods are spaced 6' or greater apart form each other.Thanks
- Location
- New Jersey
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- Journeyman Electrician
If you already have a CEE then you do not need a ground rod. The CEE and ground rod if installed can be less than 6' apart.
qcroanoke
Sometimes I don't know if I'm the boxer or the bag
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- Roanoke, VA.
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- Sorta retired........
Same here.
Thank you, That's what I thought from all the info. I've read.
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