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    It's hard to read; forum updates have obliterated...

    It's hard to read; forum updates have obliterated formatting, smileys, and blocks of text. :(

    Still fun to look back on, though - I remember being really wrapped up in it. :)
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    I didn't mention that I won. :ohmy::lol: ...

    I didn't mention that I won. :ohmy::lol:



    If it didn't take 45 minutes, three beers and four cigarettes to find it, I might go looking. Summary?
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    I hear you. It doesn't help matters that the code...

    I hear you. It doesn't help matters that the code has changed principles over the last 20 years. It used to be implied that a grounding electrode was a grounding electrode as long as the electrical...
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    I am now. You quoted the whole thing. ;) ...

    I am now. You quoted the whole thing. ;)



    Not so; look at 250.53(C) and 250.64(F)(1). Bonding jumpers that directly connect electrodes - true electrodes, not their accessories - together do not...
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    KWired, I understand where you are coming from -...

    KWired, I understand where you are coming from - but the situation that prompted the "band-aid" in the DIY thread was explicitly about finding a code-compliant way around a problem, not a best...
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    Smart, the entire reason 250.68(C) was added to...

    Smart, the entire reason 250.68(C) was added to the code book was to introduce allowances for connecting GECs and GEBJs to items not listed in 250.52. Historically we have almost always connected to...
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    I have copied posts from a closed thread (DIY)...

    I have copied posts from a closed thread (DIY) for the purposes of discussing aspects of Article 250. I apologize in advance for any confusion this may present, but I figured this was the easiest way...
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    There is no prohibition from using a #6 CU to a...

    There is no prohibition from using a #6 CU to a ground rod terminating it in it's own acorn (as shown), and then connecting a #4 from a Ufer to the rod with it's own acorn. We have not heard the...
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    There is no prohibition from using a #6 CU to a...

    There is no prohibition from using a #6 CU to a ground rod terminating it in it's own acorn (as shown), and then connecting a #4 from a Ufer to the rod with it's own acorn. We have not heard the...
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    Bonding jumpers can connect grounding electrodes...

    Bonding jumpers can connect grounding electrodes themselves, 250.68(C) is covering items that are not grounding electrodes. A ground rod is a grounding electrode. See 250.64(F)(1).
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    Bonding jumpers can connect grounding electrodes...

    Bonding jumpers can connect grounding electrodes themselves, 250.68(C) is covering items that are not grounding electrodes. A ground rod is a grounding electrode. See 250.64(F)(1).
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    I can't tell you because I can't see the end of...

    I can't tell you because I can't see the end of the conductor, and we are rather squeamish about suggesting a homeowner open the door and show us. Shock hazards, arc hazards, etc. It looks fine so...
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    Red: Wrong. Green: right.

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    Red: Wrong. Green: right.
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    ...and likely costs more than a ground rod and...

    ...and likely costs more than a ground rod and two acorns. "Best" would depend on the criteria.



    Can you substantiate this "main electrode" concept you're putting forward, and cite the code...
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    Continuiousity.

    Continuiousity.
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    That would depend on the local jurisdiction, no?...

    That would depend on the local jurisdiction, no? I am always interested in seeing a legal mechanism that requires more than the code requires because an engineer graced the scene with his or her...
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    Based on what you have described and shown, only...

    Based on what you have described and shown, only one rod was necessary to splice the Ufer to, and it's fine, assuming the grounding electrode conductor that escapes view vertically is connected to...
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    This thread started on a fine line, and I believe...

    This thread started on a fine line, and I believe that line has been crossed. This forum exists to help electricians and engineers in their job-related tasks use the NEC in their professional duties....
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    Welcome to the forum! A ground rod is...

    Welcome to the forum!



    A ground rod is always required to be supplemented by one more rod, unless the AHJ can determine that the first ground rod is 25 Ohm's to earth or less. These days, rods...
  20. Closed per forum rules, DIY advice is not...

    Closed per forum rules, DIY advice is not permitted.
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    I have to wonder if that is by design, or if they see it as an unintended negative consequence.
  22. Sticky: Poll: I resemble that remark. :lol: Some of my...

    I resemble that remark. :lol:

    Some of my experiences with the code-making process have indeed left me jaded; I didn't waste my time submitting a single proposal this cycle, because they have...
  23. Sticky: Poll: Boy, that really got to you, didn't it? :happyyes:

    Boy, that really got to you, didn't it? :happyyes:
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    My dad is found of telling me about how his dad...

    My dad is found of telling me about how his dad fed a remote structure - 120v SWER. Well it worked, didn't it? 8-)
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    Beats writing it twice. :)

    Beats writing it twice. :)
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