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    This is one of those "first world problems",...

    This is one of those "first world problems", isn't it? Buy UF and quit wasting people's time. :)
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    :lol:

    :lol:
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    I was saying the opposite - catch them all at...

    I was saying the opposite - catch them all at once with a single conductor.

    I agree with Mike on this issue. They can pay to have it fixed and it's a good idea, but I don think there is a legal...
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    Depends. Are they conductive? I can share with...

    Depends. Are they conductive?

    I can share with you some of my slides from 1st year apprentice classes if you need some help discerning a conductor from an insulator if necessary.
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    Then you have to assume the same for each stick...

    Then you have to assume the same for each stick of copper pipe in the water piping system, and bond around every coupling.
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    In general, no, unless 250.32 comes into play.

    In general, no, unless 250.32 comes into play.
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    Are you still buying something that's not dual...

    Are you still buying something that's not dual rated? Do they still sell that? Is it cheaper or something? Why not just eliminate the question?
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    Not unless the AHJ requires it. Why are you...

    Not unless the AHJ requires it. Why are you involved?



    Whatever the plumbers instructions say. Usually a #6 or a #4 does it.



    Typically what I have done with multiple gas meters is...
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    Probably a data run. Data guys make all sorts of...

    Probably a data run. Data guys make all sorts of silly requests.
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    It is pure joy not having to chase the work, I...

    It is pure joy not having to chase the work, I don't believe for a moment it's a step down working for others. :)
  11. 300.15 would cover the requirements of the box....

    300.15 would cover the requirements of the box. There is no rule limiting distance from a water pipe.

    I am answering this question with the understanding that this is not being used in any form of...
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    "When in doubt, bond it out" is a common phrase...

    "When in doubt, bond it out" is a common phrase used in the field, often when faced with a question on bonding that would require more study to argue than the installer is willing to do. It is...
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    Finally a statement I can agree with, if you...

    Finally a statement I can agree with, if you require this of others. Do what you want on your own dime. Submit a proposal if you want to change the code to reflect what you want it to say.

    The...
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    Seems clear to me that they were concerned that...

    Seems clear to me that they were concerned that their target reader might not know where to purchase "common household electric wire" which is apparently listing talk for a Chapter 3 wiring method. I...
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    The NEC does not put any more requirements on the...

    The NEC does not put any more requirements on the fixtures that tie the single system together any more than it does on the coupling of any two pieces of pipe in that single system. The NEC places no...
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    ...because they always are, and in 10 years or...

    ...because they always are, and in 10 years or so, everything will be piped in plastic anyway." :lol:

    At the end of the day, I appreciate what Mr. Ode was saying - look around and don't put...
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    Which is why cables seldom work for parallel...

    Which is why cables seldom work for parallel runs. See 250.122(F), last sentence.
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    Mike, this is what I teach at my grounding and...

    Mike, this is what I teach at my grounding and bonding classes, let me know where I am mistaken:

    http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v334/georgestolz/Electrical/waterpipe381_zps0e339c10.jpg
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    New to the 2014. Lovely. :slaphead:

    New to the 2014. Lovely. :slaphead:
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    I hate to reopen an old wound for the forum (one...

    I hate to reopen an old wound for the forum (one of the longest arguments on the forum here), but most of us do not believe a switch is an outlet, and therefore adding a switch would not kick in AFCI...
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    Agreed. Should be a #3 CU.

    Agreed. Should be a #3 CU.
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    Proposals Due November 7th

    Reminder to get your proposals done. I don't seem to have anything to add this cycle, which must mean that either:

    A. The 2014 cycle is perfection.
    B. They finally broke me.
    C. My givadarn is...
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    Surely you can't pull two smokes from the...

    Surely you can't pull two smokes from the first?!? Or even three from one outlet box?!? Unheard of, it's not in the picture!

    I just don't understand the motivation behind this thread. There are...
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    I'd go a step farther and reduce that down to a...

    I'd go a step farther and reduce that down to a 400A transfer switch (or less) supplying a panel with "critical" loads. If you can't get lighting in all rooms, receptacles in the living room and...
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    And that's probably what gave me the idea. :) ...

    And that's probably what gave me the idea. :)



    Because it can't be excluded from the definition of premises wiring unless the condition is included in that definition.



    On the other hand,...
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