Island Recept.

[K8MHZ]

Originally Posted by A-1Sparky

It hasn't been inspected yet, but I didn't see the need for a GFI mounted on the side of an island. Island countertop, yes. But this would be more of a convenience outlet.

Technically, if you can place something on the island countertop and plug it into the receptacle without an extension cord, that receptacle is serving the countertop.

[stars13bars2]

What else would you need a receptacle on the side of an island for anyway?

[electricmanscott]

You are required to install a receptacle on the island and it's sole purpose is to serve the counter.

[infinity]

Originally Posted by K8MHZ

Technically, if you can place something on the island countertop and plug it into the receptacle without an extension cord, that receptacle is serving the countertop.

If the receptacle is more than 12" below the top of the countertop it does not count as serving the island. 210.52(C)(5). I would guess that an applicance with a 2' cord could still reach an outlet that is more than 12" below the countertop surface.

[1793]

Originally Posted by electricmanscott

You are required to install a receptacle on the island and it's sole purpose is to serve the counter.

Originally Posted by infinity

If the receptacle is more than 12" below the top of the countertop it does not count as serving the island. 210.52(C)(5). I would guess that an applicance with a 2' cord could still reach an outlet that is more than 12" below the countertop surface.

As I see it, one receptacle can't serve both the requirement for countertop(s) and convience if more that 12" below the countertop.

[raider1]

Originally Posted by 1793

As I see it, one receptacle can't serve both the requirement for countertop(s) and convience if more that 12" below the countertop.

If the receptacle is more than 12" below the countertop then it can't count as the required receptacle for the countertop. (See the exception to 210.52(C)(5))

Chris

[1793]

Originally Posted by raider1

If the receptacle is more than 12" below the countertop then it can't count as the required receptacle for the countertop. (See the exception to 210.52(C)(5))

Chris

That is what I was trying to say. One receptacle is required and can't be more that 12" below the countertop. So, if you want the receptacle lower you would need to install a second receptacle.

[raider1]

Originally Posted by 1793

That is what I was trying to say. One receptacle is required and can't be more that 12" below the countertop. So, if you want the receptacle lower you would need to install a second receptacle.

OK Got it.

Chris

[infinity]

Originally Posted by electricmanscott

You are required to install a receptacle on the island and it's sole purpose is to serve the counter.

Originally Posted by infinity

If the receptacle is more than 12" below the top of the countertop it does not count as serving the island. 210.52(C)(5). I would guess that an applicance with a 2' cord could still reach an outlet that is more than 12" below the countertop surface.

Originally Posted by 1793

As I see it, one receptacle can't serve both the requirement for countertop(s) and convience if more that 12" below the countertop.

Originally Posted by K8MHZ

Technically, if you can place something on the island countertop and plug it into the receptacle without an extension cord, that receptacle is serving the countertop.

My response was to K8MHZ's response for a test to see if a receptacle is actually serving a counter top. If the receptacle is more than 12" below the countertop surface his test is no longer correct.

[A-1Sparky]

This receptacle is more than 12" below the countertop. I thought that it would meet the requirement for an island recept., but wouldn't have to have GFI protection. I guess I need a second recept.